ruth madoff agreed to forfeit $80 million and all her worldly goods. homes, boats, cars, furniture, even madoff's slippers were auctioned or sold. you were allowed to keep $2.5 million. to a lot of people, that's a lot of money. >> it is. it's certainly enough for me. i've used a lot for legal fees. >> there is a public perception, and i'm sure you've heard it, that there's got to be a stash somewhere, you know? >> i've heard it. i've heard it. >> that bernie madoff hid it somewhere, and that you know-- >> i wish they'd find it and give it all back. my understanding of a ponzi scheme is that when it's over, there's nothing left. and i certainly don't know of a stash anywhere. [ticking] >> coming up, tragedy strikes the madoff family. >> how did you react when you-- when you heard that? >> [sighs] it was awful. i wish i could say i was shocked, but i wasn't. >> we'll have more madoff when 60 minutes on cnbc returns. [ticking] thank you orville and wilbur... ...amelia... neil and buzz: for teaching us that you can't create the future... by clinging to the