ruth wilson gilmore: thank you naomi. and think everybody from tuning turning in from all over the world. i think i want to leave us with a sentence that i have been repeating for many years that involve repetition and that is life is precious, life is precious. so straightforward and makes me think about what it takes to make life precious. and that making life precious, arises to all different kinds of struggles so their strikes, but i also want to leave off with something that i learned just recently. and this is my last thing. and that is the art. that person, i know who was recently released tells me that they and other people in their immediate area in the present is singing a lot. they were singing and it was bringing them a sense of being in the world they didn't have before. and that reminded me of the freedom writers who got locked up in systems and other places who sang themselves through a terrifying time. so we shall overcome but only by building art movement. thank you. >> tonight about tv, former chair is i

for more, we are joined by abolitionist scholar ruth wilson gilmore. is a professor of earth and environmental sciences and director of the center for place, culture, and politics at cuny graduate center. she is co-founder of california prison moratorium project and critical resistance and the author of "golden gulag: prison, surplus, crisis, and opposition in globalizing california." her forthcoming book is "change everything: racial capitalism and the case for abolition." professor ruth wilson gilmore, it is an honor to have you with us from lisbon, portugal, where you are right now. can you start off with the basics? how are youou defined abolition? and can you put it in a pandemic context right now? >> oh, i certaiainly -- thanknku for having m me o on the shshow. it was very good fofor me to her the commentaryry from my colleae in texas s stopped abolition ses way -- it sees prison and punishment t as solutions for all kinds of social economic, political, behavioral, and interpersonal problems. abolition is not simply decarceration, put everybody

. >> during an author program hosted by haymarket books city university of new york professor ruth wilson gilmore offers her thoughts on in the mass incarceration of the u.s. here's a portion of her talk. >> in los angeles county, decades ago, the aclu brought the conditions of confinement case against the county for the horrendous conditions in the jails. over the years, the aclu was in charge of taking care, , keeping an eye on what the county did to remedy the horrific conditions. about 18 years ago the aclu invited a few abolitionists to come and talk to them about something they had never imagined, which was perhaps the way the remedy the problem with the l.a. county jail was not to have a jail at all, rather than to build a better jail. slowly but surely this way of understanding became central to the struggle in los angeles county over those jails. 16 years later abolitionists who joined forces with the forces of reform managed to persuade the los angeles county board of supervisors, one of the biggest governments by number of people in the united states, not to build new jail but

. >> during an another program hd by haymarket books professor ruth wilson gilmore offered her thoughts on in the mass incarceration in the u.s. here's a portion of her talk. >> in los angeles county decades ago the aclu brought a conditions of confinement case against the county for the horrendous condition in the jails. over the years the aclu was in charge of taking care of, keeping an eye on what the county did to remedy the horrific conditions. about 18 years ago the aclu invited a few abolitionists to come and talk to them about something they had never imagined, which was perhaps the way the remedy the problem with the l.a. county jail was not to have a jail at all rather than to build a better jail. slowly but surely this way of understanding became central to the struggle in los angeles county over those jails. 16 years later, abolitionists who joined forces with the forces of reform, managed to persuade the los angeles county board of supervisors, one of the biggest governments by number of people in the united states, not to build new jails, but rather to put the billions of

. >> university of new york professor ruth wilson gilmore offers her thoughts on ending mass incarceration in the u.s.. here is a portion of the talk. >> in los angeles county decades ago, the nco you brought conditions of confinement case against the county with the horrendous condition in the jails. over the years the aclu was in charge of taking care of what the county did to remedy the conditions. about the teen years ago, the aclu invited a few abolitionists to talk to them about something they never imagined which was perhaps the way that they remedy the problem with the la county jail wasn't to have jail at all rather than to build a better jail. 16 years later, abolitionists who joined forces in the reform managed to persuade the los angeles county board of supervisors which have the biggest government in the united states not to build new jails but to put the billions of dollars that could have gone into that into housing and healthcare and other life-affirming projects. so abolition is present and how we connect with growth from and multiply organizations that have the capacity t

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. >> to watch the rest of this program visit our website, booktv.org and search ruth wilson gilmore. >> good afternoon. looking to white house history live. my name is stewart mclaurin and i'm the president of the white house historical association. today we're going to have an exciting conversation with the head of our rubenstein senator whitehouse history and one of our historians on a brand-new book, "the cabinet: george washington and the creation of an american institution." ordinarily we would be doing this event at the carriage house, historic decatur house which is her base of operations on lafayette park but as we are all working from home and joined you in your home, we're trying out this new mode of communications that is perfectly fitting with our historic mission. as all of you know we were founded in 1961 by first lady jacqueline kennedy who had the vision at such a young age in such a short period of time as first lady to create an organization like the white house historical association to give nonprofit, nonpartisan support to the work of maintaining the museum stand

mcmaster and republican rand paul of kentucky takes a look at socialism and ruth wilson gilmore offer their thoughts on ening mass incarceration in the u.s. >> good afternoon, welcome to white house history live. my name is stuart mcclaren and i'm the president of the white house historical association. today we will have a conversation and historians on brand-new book. ordinarily we would do this at decatur house but as we are all working from home an we are joining you in your home, we are trying out this new mode of communications but it's

and finally, thank you to the brilliant and beautiful ruth wilson gilmore who gets the final word. >> thanks, naomi. thanks anybody for tuning in all over the world. i think i want to leave us with a sentence that i been repeating for many years that involve the repetition, that is where life is precious, life is precious. so straightforward and makes me think about what it takes to make life precious. and that making of life precious arises to all different struggles. so there's strikes, there's slippages. i also want to leave us with something that i learned just recently, and this is my last thing. and that is the art of care. a person i know who was recently released from being locked up tells me that they and other people in their immediate area in the prison started singing a lot. they were singing, and the singing was bringing them a sense of being in the world that they didn't have before. and that reminded me of the freedom riders who got locked up in prison who sang themselves through a terrifying time, we shall overcome but only by building our movement. thank you. >> sunda

. >> to watch the rest of this program visit our website, booktv.org and search ruth wilson gilmore. .. here's a portion of that interview >> the attempted assassination and a number of presidents were already assassinated, why wouldn't the government have protections from him? there were pensions for army officers, everybody else but no pension for presidents. in fact he had very little money. he had to borrow some money secretly, which dean addison cosigned. to pay for the move back home. this is not well-known and doesn't mean he didn't have any money. he did have money but you need cash to cover all the expenses of moving out of the white house. and when he got home in order to provide himself some income he undertook the writing of his autobiography, it is memoirs which no other president had ever done except for herbert hoover but hoover's time in office was much briefer than trumans and trumans presidency covered far more tumultuous history and hoover's had so to undertake the 2 volume memoir was a very major ambitious task. and then he built his library . now, there had been

wilson: mr. speaker, i oppose this absurdity on behalf of america's students and grandchildren. adson, houston, emily, ruth, jackson, katherine who will be burdened by debt. on monday i saw the best of america in my birth place of charleston. as boeing c.e.o. presented planes full of p.p.e.'s to muse president david cole showing our appreciation for health professionals. thank you to the the doctors for my n 5 mask. this was private business not government, protecting american families. all levels of government were present. municipal, with the mayor of north charleston and the mayor of charleston sounty with charleston county council. and federal in senator tim scott and congressman joe cunningham and ralph norman. republicans and democrats working together. 11 weeks ago today i was at the same airport with president donald trump and 30,000 supporters thanking him for record job creation. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields. the gentleman from oklahoma reserves. the gentlewoman from new york is recognized. mrs. mrs. lowey: i'm pleased to yield, mr. speaker, one minute to the distin

wilson: mr. speaker, i oppose this absurdity on behalf of america's students and grandchildren. adson, houston, emily, ruth, jackson, katherine who will be burdened by debt. on monday i saw the best of america in my birth place of charleston. as boeing c.e.o. presented planes full of p.p.e.'s to muse president david cole showing our appreciation for health professionals. thank you to the the doctors for my n 5 mask. this was private business not government, protecting american families. all levels of government were present. municipal, with the mayor of north charleston and the mayor of charleston sounty with charleston county council. and federal in senator tim scott and congressman joe cunningham and ralph norman. republicans and democrats working together. 11 weeks ago today i was at the same airport with president donald trump and 30,000 supporters thanking him for record job creation. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields. the gentleman from oklahoma reserves. the gentlewoman from new york is recognized. mrs. mrs. lowey: i'm pleased to yield, mr. speaker, one minute to the distin