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towards ruther central. >> more towards the northeast corner of that same property. >> correct. >> but you were still on the car source property when that second threat was allegedly made, correct? >> yes. >> did you remember what mr. rosenbaum had said to you later on when he's confronting you at the 63rd street car source? >> i took a mental picture of his face when he said those threats, i recognized he said that when he started chasing me. >> so when you are running away from him at the 63rd street car source, you're thinking to yourself, this is the guy who had made a threat to me earlier. is that fair to say? >> i was thinking this is the guy that said if he catches me alone, he'll kill me, as i'm running away from him. >> the reason i ask, mr. rittenhouse, is how did you know it was the same guy when he's changed the way he looks? >> his appearance. the shorts, his height. >> but in both of those instances, he's got something covering his face. either the blue bandanna or the red shirt in a different instance. >> he was wearing the red shirt when he chased me, around his head. >
towards ruther central. >> more towards the northeast corner of that same property. >> correct. >> but you were still on the car source property when that second threat was allegedly made, correct? >> yes. >> did you remember what mr. rosenbaum had said to you later on when he's confronting you at the 63rd street car source? >> i took a mental picture of his face when he said those threats, i recognized he said that when he started chasing me. >> so...
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>> i did, i believe that was referring to the ruther central high school. >> okay. so when she described it as happening at the church, you think she was getting it confused? >> yes. >> okay. so whatever happened with this flammable liquid on the door, the point is, some other group, some other people put that out before you even got there. >> correct. >> why did you feel that you should go around, off the 59th street car source property, and put out fires? >> to make sure my community didn't get burnt down, and help. >> when you say your community, you mean kenosha? >> yes. >> again, you're from antioch. you're not living in kenosha at this time when this all happens, right? >> my dad lives in kenosha. >> lots of people live in kenosha, but you didn't, right? >> my residence was in antioch. >> but you felt like you wanted to do things to protect this community, fair? >> the community that i was part of, yes. >> and you felt like it was appropriate for you to take matters into your own hands to put out fires, for example? >> to put out fires by using a fire extingui
>> i did, i believe that was referring to the ruther central high school. >> okay. so when she described it as happening at the church, you think she was getting it confused? >> yes. >> okay. so whatever happened with this flammable liquid on the door, the point is, some other group, some other people put that out before you even got there. >> correct. >> why did you feel that you should go around, off the 59th street car source property, and put out fires?...
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. >> and the next day you guys woke up at some point and came down to ruther. is that right? >> spent the night at his house, had dinner, woeg upke up in the morning, had breakfast. i was on social media and we saw the damage and we saw the car source so we decided to go down. >> and you came down in dominic's car? >> correct. >> and you said that there was a time in which you were cleaning graffiti at ruther. >> yes. >> and at some point and i want to make sure i'm understanding the time line here, that you went to one of the car sources and encountered the owners sam or sal or whoever they are, correct? >> yes. >> which of the car source locations was that? >> it was the car source right here. >> and that's the one up in northeast corner 59th? >> correct. >> and that's the one that had gotten totally burned out on one of the previous nights? >> correct. the other car sources still had cars there. >> now, before that had you ever worked at car source before? >> i had not. >> had you ever bought a car there before? >> i had not. >> had you even heard of car source before all
. >> and the next day you guys woke up at some point and came down to ruther. is that right? >> spent the night at his house, had dinner, woeg upke up in the morning, had breakfast. i was on social media and we saw the damage and we saw the car source so we decided to go down. >> and you came down in dominic's car? >> correct. >> and you said that there was a time in which you were cleaning graffiti at ruther. >> yes. >> and at some point and i want to...
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>> around that time we saw ruther central high school on fire, the front doors. and we were walking north down sheridan road to go put the fire out. and then somebody else put the fire out before we got to ruther central high school. >> is that here on pacific park? >> no, that's my mistake, sorry. you are walking north on sheridan it is the side of the building on sheridan road toward the left when you are walking north. >> in the general area where you were trying to help remove graffiti earlier. >> yes, in the photo to the right. >> okay. and during the evening, was there any friction between your group and protestors/rioters? >> no. the only type of stuff that happened was the person that attacked me first threatened to kill me twice. >> okay. the person who threatened to kill you we now know is mr. rosenbaum, correct? >> yes. >> bill: before august 25 of 2020 had you ever seen him before? >> i did not. >> had you ever done anything to upset him? >> no. >> now you said he threatened to kill you twice. >> yes. >> describe the first time. >> the first time was
>> around that time we saw ruther central high school on fire, the front doors. and we were walking north down sheridan road to go put the fire out. and then somebody else put the fire out before we got to ruther central high school. >> is that here on pacific park? >> no, that's my mistake, sorry. you are walking north on sheridan it is the side of the building on sheridan road toward the left when you are walking north. >> in the general area where you were trying to...
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api center of the pandemic because countries report record numbers of infection. poland and bella ruther accused all seriously abusing refugees and migrants on the border. plus the south denied, and they had mentioned that good one. they said the planet, the face cross will crash into an asteroid. find out how to stop one plummeting into uh ah, welcome to the program. we begin in ethiopia, where the conflict between the government and the guy rebels is escalating. prime minister aman has now left the capital and his heading to the front line to lead his troops in the battle. the t p rebels pushing south room to grow into the neighboring regions of a honda and a far down a major road running into the capital, addis ababa to grow. and rebels said earlier this month that they take control of these towns convolute check since only supply line linking the landlocked nation, the port city of chip booty. that last week, the rebels claim to have captured the northern town of sailor robot, about 200 kilometers from the capital. that circles over to some will got to true his in ethiopian journalis
api center of the pandemic because countries report record numbers of infection. poland and bella ruther accused all seriously abusing refugees and migrants on the border. plus the south denied, and they had mentioned that good one. they said the planet, the face cross will crash into an asteroid. find out how to stop one plummeting into uh ah, welcome to the program. we begin in ethiopia, where the conflict between the government and the guy rebels is escalating. prime minister aman has now...
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nick smith's house, we walked from nick smith's house to the car source one, cutting through the ruthering lot. nick smith lives on the same street -- >> you don't have to say where he lives. he lives within walking distance from here? >> yes. >> so you go to car source one? >> yes. >> that's the burnt out one? >> no. car source two. my bad. across the street. >> at car source two, that's where you spent most of the evening? >> yes. >> when you first got to car source two, the one at 59th and sheridan, what happened? ? >> the owners were there. sam, sal and his father. i think it was his uncle there, also. he was driving a van of some sort. >> what was the discussion? >> sam and sal thanked us for coming out to help. and then he said -- sal said, hey, why don't you guys hop in my car -- if i remember correctly, it was either a white or black bmw or mercedes. i don't remember exactly. >> why did he want you to get in his car? >> he was going to drive us down to car city council one, lot number three. >> did you agree to get in his car? >> i did. >> who went to car source three? >> me, do
nick smith's house, we walked from nick smith's house to the car source one, cutting through the ruthering lot. nick smith lives on the same street -- >> you don't have to say where he lives. he lives within walking distance from here? >> yes. >> so you go to car source one? >> yes. >> that's the burnt out one? >> no. car source two. my bad. across the street. >> at car source two, that's where you spent most of the evening? >> yes. >> when...
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and then somebody else put the fire out before we got to ruther central high school. >> is that here on civic park? >> no. i'm sorry. that's my mistake. you're walking north on sheriton. it's the side of the building toward the left when you're walking north. >> in the general area where you tried to help remove graffiti earlier? >> yes. in that photo to the right. >> okay. and during the evening, was there any friction between your group and protesters/rioters? >> no. the only type of stuff that happened was the person that attacked me first threatened to kill me twice. >> okay. and the person who threatened to kill you, we now was mr. rosenbaum. correct? >> before august 5th of 2020, had you ever seen him before? >> i did not. >> had you ever done anything to upset him? >> no. >> now, you said he threatened to kill you twice? >> yes. >> describe the first time. >> the first time was me and ryan bulch were a little bit north toward the north corner of 59th and sheriton and mr. rosenbaum was walking with a steel chain and had a blue mask around his face. he was just mad about somethi
and then somebody else put the fire out before we got to ruther central high school. >> is that here on civic park? >> no. i'm sorry. that's my mistake. you're walking north on sheriton. it's the side of the building toward the left when you're walking north. >> in the general area where you tried to help remove graffiti earlier? >> yes. in that photo to the right. >> okay. and during the evening, was there any friction between your group and protesters/rioters?...
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>> around that time we saw ruther central high school on fire, the front doors. we were walking north down sheridan road to go put the fire o out. somebody else put the fire out before we got there. >> are you saying the front right there on civic park? >> no. that's my mistake. if you're walking north on sheridan, it's the side of the building on sheridan road. towards the left when you're walking north. >> in the general area where you tried to help remove graffiti earlier? >> yes, in that photo to the right. >> and during the evening, was there any friction between your group and protesters/rioters? >> no. the only type of stuff that happened was the person that attacked me first threatened to kill me twice. >> okay. the person who threatened to kill you, we now know is mr. rosenbaum, correct? >> yes. >> before august 25th of 2020, had you ever seen him before? >> i did not. >> had you ever done anything to upset him? >> no. >> now, you said he threatened to kill you twice. >> yes. >> describe the first time. >> the first time was me and ryan balch were a litt
>> around that time we saw ruther central high school on fire, the front doors. we were walking north down sheridan road to go put the fire o out. somebody else put the fire out before we got there. >> are you saying the front right there on civic park? >> no. that's my mistake. if you're walking north on sheridan, it's the side of the building on sheridan road. towards the left when you're walking north. >> in the general area where you tried to help remove graffiti...
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nick smith's house, we walked from nick smith's house to the car source one, cutting through the rutheron the same street. >> you don't have to say where nick smith lives. >> okay. >> he lives within walking distance of here? >> yes. >> so you go to car source one? >> yes. >> and that's -- car search two, across the street. >> and at car source two, that's where you spent most of the evening? >> yes. >> when you first got to car source 2, the one at 59st, what happened? >> toners were there, sam, sal, his father, and i think it was his uncle there also. he was driving a van of some sort. >> okay. and what was the discussion? >> sam and sal thanked us for coming out to help. and then he said sal said hey, why don't you guys hop in my car. if i remember correctly, it was either a white or black bmw or mercedes. i don't recall exactly. >> and why did he want you to get in his car? >> he was going to drive us down to car source lot number 3. >> and did you agree to get in his car? >> i did. >> and who went to car source number three? >> me, dominic black, and nick smith. >> and who was driv
nick smith's house, we walked from nick smith's house to the car source one, cutting through the rutheron the same street. >> you don't have to say where nick smith lives. >> okay. >> he lives within walking distance of here? >> yes. >> so you go to car source one? >> yes. >> and that's -- car search two, across the street. >> and at car source two, that's where you spent most of the evening? >> yes. >> when you first got to car source...
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parked at nick smith's house we walked from his house to the car source one, cutting through the rutherng distance from here? >> yes. >> so you go to car source one, the burnt out one? >> no, car source two across the street. >> at car source two is where you spent most of the evening? >> yes. >> when you first got to car source two, the one at 59th and sheridan, what happened? >> the owners were there, sam, sa*l and his father and i believe -- i think it was his uncle there also driving a van of some sort. >> and what was the discussion? >> sam and sal were coming out to help. and then he said -- sal said why don't you guys hop in my car. if i remember correctly it was either a white or black bmw or mercedes. i don't recall exactly. >> why did he want you to get in his car? >> he was going to drive us down to car source lot number three. >> did you agree to get in his car? >> i did. >> who went to car source number three? >> me, dominic black, and nick smith. >> and who was driving? >> sal. >> and when you got there, what happened? >> we got out and we hung around for a couple minutes
parked at nick smith's house we walked from his house to the car source one, cutting through the rutherng distance from here? >> yes. >> so you go to car source one, the burnt out one? >> no, car source two across the street. >> at car source two is where you spent most of the evening? >> yes. >> when you first got to car source two, the one at 59th and sheridan, what happened? >> the owners were there, sam, sa*l and his father and i believe -- i think...