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. >> we didn't think james rutherford was going to show up. he had engaged in a long, explicit, suggestive webcam interaction with our decoy, showing a little parts of the body. later, though, he said, i'm not sure this is the right thing to do. >> i was really looking forward to it. that's not fair. i'm so bored here. >> but all of a sudden, this red corvette comes down the driveway and parks right around back. now, the way we had it set up was that the guy would park in front and walk around back. but he drove right up to the back door. so we all had to scramble into position. >> okay. gotcha. i'm familiar with that approach. >> come on in. [ knock on door ] >> the door's open. >> where are you? >> i just wanted to go finish getting ready. i'll be right there. >> where are you? >> i'll be right back. just sit at the bar. and i'll be right there. >> come here. >> no, i promise, i'll be right back. >> no, come here. come here. >> actually, i want you to come here. >> that's what i thought. >> rutherford alluded to the potential of this being a
. >> we didn't think james rutherford was going to show up. he had engaged in a long, explicit, suggestive webcam interaction with our decoy, showing a little parts of the body. later, though, he said, i'm not sure this is the right thing to do. >> i was really looking forward to it. that's not fair. i'm so bored here. >> but all of a sudden, this red corvette comes down the driveway and parks right around back. now, the way we had it set up was that the guy would park in...
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wineries on the four mile stretch of the river called the rutherford reach have decided to grant easementsor phase one of the ambitious projects. >>> lava spelling from mount ki kilau kilauea. it inches towards the water and consuming everything in its path. it's been erupting continuously since 1983. >> there's no way to anticipate precisely when or how large or what direction the explosion is going to go. that means the entire summit area of kilawea will be evacuated because we cannot say where the eruption will occur. >> the lava is shooting 65 feet into the air and some 5,000 tourists have come daily to see that drama unfold. >> that would be a really cool but scary sight. >> i can see why it would draw so many tourists, and i would like to see it in person as well. jeff, have you had a chance to see it up close? >> no. but it draws you up close. >>> a few weekend showers have snuck into the forecast. it is not a big storm system as the radar scans, finding dry conditions to the south bay and very comfortable weather outside. we had plenty of sunshine and temperatures the warmest today
wineries on the four mile stretch of the river called the rutherford reach have decided to grant easementsor phase one of the ambitious projects. >>> lava spelling from mount ki kilau kilauea. it inches towards the water and consuming everything in its path. it's been erupting continuously since 1983. >> there's no way to anticipate precisely when or how large or what direction the explosion is going to go. that means the entire summit area of kilawea will be evacuated because we...
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the clouds are rutherford -- then. you can see thicker clouds to the west and south of us. a little bit of snow activity in the mountains of pennsylvania coming into west virginia. there was more activity earlier today. there is a cold front coming through and it does not look like it will produce any precipitation iran baltimore at all. the stuff that has been on the eastern shore in significant as it has been will be moving out of the picture. the overnight hours look dry, at least for most of the area. let's see what happened for most of the day. plessey with the temperatures dip. above normal. typical this time of year. we were down a round of freezing this morning. with clouds out there, temperatures probably will not drop as far. we will not see some of those suburban 20's as i suspect. temperatures maypop toward -- more temperatures on the eastern shore were the clouds are thicker. a little cool from the bay westward and the downright chilly in the mountains to the west. here is a satellite image with red are showing the sprinkles along new jersey and delaware coast.
the clouds are rutherford -- then. you can see thicker clouds to the west and south of us. a little bit of snow activity in the mountains of pennsylvania coming into west virginia. there was more activity earlier today. there is a cold front coming through and it does not look like it will produce any precipitation iran baltimore at all. the stuff that has been on the eastern shore in significant as it has been will be moving out of the picture. the overnight hours look dry, at least for most...
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. >> we work in partnership with scott rutherford. i am the person who has been meeting with the neighborhood groups and to represent cvs representdo -- do represent cvs directly. it is not a consulting relationship. you may have seen a dramatic sales in self-check out -- you have seen automatic sales and have seen automatic sales and self-check out, but we do have a
. >> we work in partnership with scott rutherford. i am the person who has been meeting with the neighborhood groups and to represent cvs representdo -- do represent cvs directly. it is not a consulting relationship. you may have seen a dramatic sales in self-check out -- you have seen automatic sales and have seen automatic sales and self-check out, but we do have a
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today, i have hollywood was with landmark representing cbs, scott rutherford with cbs, who is the district manager, doug with trader joe's, and our land use counsel, if there are any questions following our presentation. a few key points about the project -- this is a renovation of an existing building. in all of our major interactions we had with the neighborhood and stakeholders over the years, the overwhelming concern was the loss of the grocery store and the substantial inconvenience associated with the downtime of redeveloping the site. after supervisor cju -- chu work with us to successfully get the previous owner to extend their lease, we were able to put together a project with the combination of trader joe's and cvs. this took almost two years of lease negotiations, construction documents, and permitting. this is a single application, and the substantial costs of renovating, in addition to the tenant improvements, are being financed by the tenants. the project works with both, not one. we believe the project itself is a high-quality replacement grocery store and a high-quality dru
today, i have hollywood was with landmark representing cbs, scott rutherford with cbs, who is the district manager, doug with trader joe's, and our land use counsel, if there are any questions following our presentation. a few key points about the project -- this is a renovation of an existing building. in all of our major interactions we had with the neighborhood and stakeholders over the years, the overwhelming concern was the loss of the grocery store and the substantial inconvenience...
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. >> we work in partnership with scott rutherford. i am the person who has been meeting with the neighborhood groups and to represent cvs representdo -- do represent cvs directly. it is not a consulting relationship. you may have seen a dramatic sales in self-check out -- you have seen automatic sales and self-check out, but we do have a staff checkout counter. right now, there's no plans. it is possible. it is a customer convenience, something they have played with in various stores and will be determined as they move forward with the design of the store. >> but i would think your plan right now is not to have this because, obviously, someone who might -- we would need better oversight of the purchase of alcoholic beverages. if they would prefer, -- they would probably prefer to purchase alcohol that way rather than deal with someone who could monitor it. >> that is not possible. it is not possible to scan age- restricted limits. the requirements without a manager and someone over the age of 21 check out anyone making an alcoholic be
. >> we work in partnership with scott rutherford. i am the person who has been meeting with the neighborhood groups and to represent cvs representdo -- do represent cvs directly. it is not a consulting relationship. you may have seen a dramatic sales in self-check out -- you have seen automatic sales and self-check out, but we do have a staff checkout counter. right now, there's no plans. it is possible. it is a customer convenience, something they have played with in various stores and...
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get on a bus train or plane veered off or his take is john whitehead attorney and founder of the rutherford institute john welcome thank you jon i'm i'm about as left as you can get i call myself a democratic socialist you and your organization about as far right wing as one can get from defending cross burning to funny one of the sex lawsuits against president bill clinton yet you're really moved so it is civil liberties i understood it or i understand i didn't mean that as a slight as a slam. if you characterize my apologies yet your opposed to these invasions of our civil liberties that were put into place largely by george w. bush and are regularly offended on g.o.p. t.v.'s fox news has our government steps so far over the line when it comes to the fourth member privacy rights issues that the outrage against this is totally trans partisan. oh yeah i think so i believe in the bill rights and that's the key here is how far can the government go invading your rights and the body scanners of course you call them or the scanners report all machines you know they see everything except the key
get on a bus train or plane veered off or his take is john whitehead attorney and founder of the rutherford institute john welcome thank you jon i'm i'm about as left as you can get i call myself a democratic socialist you and your organization about as far right wing as one can get from defending cross burning to funny one of the sex lawsuits against president bill clinton yet you're really moved so it is civil liberties i understood it or i understand i didn't mean that as a slight as a slam....
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. >>> green bay packers put their undefeated records on the line today in east rutherford.ter until giant's eli manning makes a bad decision. clay matthews makes him play. matthews goes 38 yards. but it's tied 35-35. so green bay needs mason crosby. mason crosby kicks a 30-yard field goal and keeps the packers record intact. green bay hosts the raiders as we said next sunday. giants fall to 6-6. houston wins as franchise records six straight games. in chicago, matt fortey injures himself in the second -- only touchdown of the game came on the final game of the first half. kansas city quarterback, tyler palco the hail mary. chief dexter mccluster catches it. chiefs break their losing streak. bears 7-5. that was kansas city's first touchdown in three games. also today tennessee hands buffalo its sixth straight hroz. >>> kevin kaulb played his first game in six weeks. to stevens. look out cowboys this guy is so good he needs three gameless. game winning touchdown. cardinals beat dallas for the third straight time 19-16 is the final. it's the first time arizona has beaten a tea
. >>> green bay packers put their undefeated records on the line today in east rutherford.ter until giant's eli manning makes a bad decision. clay matthews makes him play. matthews goes 38 yards. but it's tied 35-35. so green bay needs mason crosby. mason crosby kicks a 30-yard field goal and keeps the packers record intact. green bay hosts the raiders as we said next sunday. giants fall to 6-6. houston wins as franchise records six straight games. in chicago, matt fortey injures...
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now that the ball is rolling, managers predict that the entire rutherford section of the river can be completed in the next five years. in napa valley, don ford, cbs 5. >> a new twist in the medical pot debate. >> we introduced him to cbd- rich cannabis. >> the bay area 5-year-old who is the latest patient of medical marijuana. >>> and the this used to be a self-contained city inside the ghost camps left behind as the final u.s. troops pull out of iraq. >> girls on top, boys on the bottom. >> and adoption scam that stretches from kansas city to california. the woman accused of preying on more than a dozen couples desperate to become parents. how she was finally caught. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, dispensaries are already under >>> our top story at 6:30, california's medical marijuana dispensaries are already under heavy fire from the feds so why would one bay area provider choose to fuel the fire by giving cannabis to a kindergartener? robert lyles reports. >> reporter: weed wars is only in its second especially so but already buzzing. >> christmas morning four months after he was born he had hi
now that the ball is rolling, managers predict that the entire rutherford section of the river can be completed in the next five years. in napa valley, don ford, cbs 5. >> a new twist in the medical pot debate. >> we introduced him to cbd- rich cannabis. >> the bay area 5-year-old who is the latest patient of medical marijuana. >>> and the this used to be a self-contained city inside the ghost camps left behind as the final u.s. troops pull out of iraq. >> girls...
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in rutherford, abc 7 news. >> weighs snaw napa beautiful weather out there today. clear skies. but hazy. >> air quality has been declining last few days but clear skies wechlt may get a little bit of are i hope this weekend but doesn't look like a heavy storm. live view right now from the high definition east bay camera in emeryville. back across the bay and bay bridge and again mostly clear tonight and pleasant one around the bay area. a little cool in some spots rate now. look at our current temperature readings we have 38 degrees in napa so clearly getting chilly there and 35 at fairfield even chillier. 40's in most inland locations. 53 in san francisco and 50 in oakland. highlights in these chilly to cold again tonight. total lunar eclipse tomorrows morning and it's advice in. we expect it to be visible despite the presence of some includes and chance of showers on sunday. here's our animation for the lunar eclips eclipse. begins at about 4:45 tomorrow morning. look just over the western horizon. we expect some clouds low clouds offshore thin high clouds before. it will be
in rutherford, abc 7 news. >> weighs snaw napa beautiful weather out there today. clear skies. but hazy. >> air quality has been declining last few days but clear skies wechlt may get a little bit of are i hope this weekend but doesn't look like a heavy storm. live view right now from the high definition east bay camera in emeryville. back across the bay and bay bridge and again mostly clear tonight and pleasant one around the bay area. a little cool in some spots rate now. look at...
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the giants and jets fuelly play in new jersey, east rutherford. tv series was based on a mob family in new jersey residing at 633 north stag trail road in north caldwell, new jersey? >> i'd have to say sopranos. reporter: that's correct. good job, you're right. that's the only one you need to know. what former giants running back is in the hall of fame, is a former league mvp, losted monday night football from 1971 to 19-- hosted monday night football from 1971 to 1977, married kathie lee, former hall of fame running back. now on monday night football. the other way you could get there is if you ever watched regis and kathie lee, i don't know if you remember that show in the morning, what was kathie lee's last name? she married this guy. you will know when i say it. frank gifford. you didn't know it? >> no idea. reporter: you went 3-5. that's very respectable. >> yeah. 66%. >> well, durrell young went 3- 5. brian went 4 1/2 for 5. laura went 1-5. >> it's because i talked trash. that's why. i was just making it up. >> and you have the scorekeeper i
the giants and jets fuelly play in new jersey, east rutherford. tv series was based on a mob family in new jersey residing at 633 north stag trail road in north caldwell, new jersey? >> i'd have to say sopranos. reporter: that's correct. good job, you're right. that's the only one you need to know. what former giants running back is in the hall of fame, is a former league mvp, losted monday night football from 1971 to 19-- hosted monday night football from 1971 to 1977, married kathie...
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wineries along the stretch of the rutherford reach have donated easements of phase one for a projecto save the river and fish. >>> take a look at the video from hawaii where lava is spewing from the volcano kilauea. lava is now moving through abandoned subdivision and burning everything in its path as it crawls towards the water. it has been erupting continuously since 1983. >>> if you were up early enough this morning, you probably were able to see the total lunar eclipse in the sky. this is video of the eclipse this morning. the moon passed through the southern part of the earth's shadow early this morning starting just before 5:00 and lasting until about 7:00. if you missed it, you will have to wait a while before the next one. the next full law nar eclipse is expected to happen in the spring of 2014. rob mayeda in away from the windows and doors, it was very easy to see. it was so clear. >> this is what makes it fun to be here and see it on big screens instead of being outside where it was in the 20s and 30s outside. very cold. it was fascinating to see the moon as it went throug
wineries along the stretch of the rutherford reach have donated easements of phase one for a projecto save the river and fish. >>> take a look at the video from hawaii where lava is spewing from the volcano kilauea. lava is now moving through abandoned subdivision and burning everything in its path as it crawls towards the water. it has been erupting continuously since 1983. >>> if you were up early enough this morning, you probably were able to see the total lunar eclipse in...
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the crowds thought president grover cleveland past presidents rutherford g hayes and chester arthur andthe justices of the supreme court. the governors of every state in the union went by "the new yorker" which their states had originally come at the union. in the military side is a galaxy of generals. 40,000 troops past have included the west point crew of cadets wearing black armbands. music was provided by 250 bands and drum cores. proof of how grant had brought the nation together with the fact that confederate general joseph e. johnston and simon boulevard buckner were among the honored participants. the last large segment of the enormous parade, a democracy's tribute that took a ton her son from ohio as a column of feet of similac did and appointed officials from all over the united states. the parade's combination military strength and the representatives of constitutional law but it pleased for him to believe so firmly in the prosperous future he saw for the country you served. in addition to the public outpouring of respect and affection, those who knew gradwell had more privat
the crowds thought president grover cleveland past presidents rutherford g hayes and chester arthur andthe justices of the supreme court. the governors of every state in the union went by "the new yorker" which their states had originally come at the union. in the military side is a galaxy of generals. 40,000 troops past have included the west point crew of cadets wearing black armbands. music was provided by 250 bands and drum cores. proof of how grant had brought the nation together...
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the crowd stopped president grover cleveland, past presidents rutherford b. hayes and chester arthur and the justices of the supreme court. the governors of every state in the union went by in the order in which their state had come in to the union. on the military side there was a galaxy of generals. 40,000 troops passed including the west point corps of cadets wearing black armbands. music was provided by 250 bands and drum corpss. proof of how grant brought the nation together was the fact that confederate generals were among the honored participant. the last large segment of the enormous parade, democracy's tribute to the tattered son from ohio was a column of 8,000 elected and appointed officials from all over the united states. the parade combination of military strength and representatives of constitutional law would have pleased grant who believe so firmly in a prosperous future he saw for the country he served. in addition to the public outpouring of affection, those who knew grant will have their more private reactions. on the day grant died mark tw
the crowd stopped president grover cleveland, past presidents rutherford b. hayes and chester arthur and the justices of the supreme court. the governors of every state in the union went by in the order in which their state had come in to the union. on the military side there was a galaxy of generals. 40,000 troops passed including the west point corps of cadets wearing black armbands. music was provided by 250 bands and drum corpss. proof of how grant brought the nation together was the fact...
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colleen is up next in rutherford, new jersey. hi, colleen, you're on. >> hello. i have a really good question. but he just want to make a comment and i'm glad i came after the woman who lived -- the phone call prior. her living in the 1920's. because i was in my early 20's in the 1990's. and ross perot was the equivalent of a ron paul. the young people lotched ross perot. i used to run home and couldn't wait to watch his pie charts. i learned so much from him. and it's almost -- i almost forget bill clinton in those debates. because it really was -- ross perot really was the rock star for the people in their 20's. he had a huge following. i went to go see him in monmouth county but my question is he was very good friends with john mccain. and from what i understand, he lost touch with john mccain, i think when john left his first wife. but he recently called a reporter from "the new york times" when john mccain was running for president. and i believe that reporter wrote an article, because ross perot made a personal phone call to him. that's my question. do you
colleen is up next in rutherford, new jersey. hi, colleen, you're on. >> hello. i have a really good question. but he just want to make a comment and i'm glad i came after the woman who lived -- the phone call prior. her living in the 1920's. because i was in my early 20's in the 1990's. and ross perot was the equivalent of a ron paul. the young people lotched ross perot. i used to run home and couldn't wait to watch his pie charts. i learned so much from him. and it's almost -- i almost...
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can rutherford. excess and unstable munitions along with the countless number of land mines still buried around the world pose a grave danger to the lives and safety of men, women, and children everywhere. in areas recovering from conflict, these weapons increase the threat of a group or individual might reignite hostilities. around the world landmines render thousands of acres of land unusable. and literally tearaway the fabric from communities unable to walk safely from village to village. we are making important progress. over the past decade we have helped decrease the world wide number of land mine casualties from around 15-20,000 annually to approximately 4000 in each of the last two years. that is still an unacceptably high figure. the progress we made is it do in no small part to the commitment of the united states government and partner organizations to clear hundreds of thousands of anti-personnel and anti-vehicle land mines. this report documents the $201 million in aid the united states p
can rutherford. excess and unstable munitions along with the countless number of land mines still buried around the world pose a grave danger to the lives and safety of men, women, and children everywhere. in areas recovering from conflict, these weapons increase the threat of a group or individual might reignite hostilities. around the world landmines render thousands of acres of land unusable. and literally tearaway the fabric from communities unable to walk safely from village to village. we...
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first game we'll talk about is the one taking place at east rutherford, new jersey, the giants and newoutdoor game. not expecting any precipitation. pretty but certainly nippy. 38 degrees. that'll be your expected high for game time. in order field ford field in detroit, san diego and the tigers -- heavens to betsy. talking about the detroit lions rather. if you're going to walk around say greek town or even making the walk from the people mover to ford field it will be chilly. kickoff is 4:05. temperature at 36. winds south-southwest at 5 or 10 miles an hour. my apologies to you lion fans. the cowboys stadium in arlington talking about the eagles and the cowboys. kickoff is 4:15. if you plan on doing any outdoor cooking, maybe some grilling and that kind of thing you'll have to dodge the rain drops. 40% chance of showers. then we fast forward to tomorrow. christmas day there will be a game in chicago or rather at green bay, chicago, the bears at the packers. kickoff at 8:20 p.m. at lambeau field. temperature around 30 degrees or so. winds stronger by later in the game so with the wind
first game we'll talk about is the one taking place at east rutherford, new jersey, the giants and newoutdoor game. not expecting any precipitation. pretty but certainly nippy. 38 degrees. that'll be your expected high for game time. in order field ford field in detroit, san diego and the tigers -- heavens to betsy. talking about the detroit lions rather. if you're going to walk around say greek town or even making the walk from the people mover to ford field it will be chilly. kickoff is 4:05....
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ken rutherford, and james madison university who helped prepare this report. excess and unstable munitions along with the countless number of land mines buried around the world pose a grave danger to the lives and safety of men, women, and children everywhere. in areas recovering from conflict, these weapons increase the threat that groups or individuals might reignite hostilities. around the world, land mines rendered thousands of acres of land unusable and literally tear away the fabric from communities unable to farmland, unable to walk safely from village to village. but we are making important progress. over the last decade, we have helped decrease the worldwide number of land mine casualties from around 15,000 to around 20,000 annually to approximately 4,000 in each of the last two years. that is still an unacceptably high figure. but the progress that we've made is due in no small part to the commitment of the united states government and partner organizations to clear hundreds of thousands of anti-personnel and anti-vehicle land mines. this report docu
ken rutherford, and james madison university who helped prepare this report. excess and unstable munitions along with the countless number of land mines buried around the world pose a grave danger to the lives and safety of men, women, and children everywhere. in areas recovering from conflict, these weapons increase the threat that groups or individuals might reignite hostilities. around the world, land mines rendered thousands of acres of land unusable and literally tear away the fabric from...
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ken rutherford and everyone at the international station for recovery. and james, who held for -- prepare this report. there is a countless number of land mines >> in areas recovering from conflict, have these weapons increase the threat that grips individuals. >> secretary of state to clinton as the u.s. houses back in the session. for enhanced reliability in the transportation of the nation's energy product by pipeline and for other purposes. the speaker pro tempore: the chair will entertain up to 15 requests for one-minute speeches per side. for what purpose does the gentleman from michigan rise? >> to address the house for one minute and revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. >> mr. speaker, the late champion of freedom once explained the battle between good and evil as an etornle, never-ending struggle waged not just by good people against evil people. it takes place inside everyone, it is what makes a person a person, and life, life. so anyone who claims i am a dreamer who expects to transform hell into heaven is
ken rutherford and everyone at the international station for recovery. and james, who held for -- prepare this report. there is a countless number of land mines >> in areas recovering from conflict, have these weapons increase the threat that grips individuals. >> secretary of state to clinton as the u.s. houses back in the session. for enhanced reliability in the transportation of the nation's energy product by pipeline and for other purposes. the speaker pro tempore: the chair...
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colleen is up next in rutherford, new jersey. hi, colleen, you're on. >> hello. i have a really good question. but he just want to make a comment and i'm glad i came after the woman who lived -- the phone call prior. her living in the 1920's. because i was in my early 20's in the 1990's. and ross perot was the equivalent of a ron paul. the young people lotched ross perot. i used to run home and couldn't wait to watch his pie charts. i learned so much from him. and it's almost -- i almost forget bill clinton in those debates. because it really was -- ross perot really was the rock star for the people in their 20's. he had a huge following. i went to go see him in monmouth county but my question is he was very good friends with john mccain. and from what i understand, he lost touch with john mccain, i think when john left his first wife. but he recently called a reporter from "the new york times" when john mccain was running for president. and i believe that reporter wrote an article, because ross perot made a personal phone call to him. that's my question. do you
colleen is up next in rutherford, new jersey. hi, colleen, you're on. >> hello. i have a really good question. but he just want to make a comment and i'm glad i came after the woman who lived -- the phone call prior. her living in the 1920's. because i was in my early 20's in the 1990's. and ross perot was the equivalent of a ron paul. the young people lotched ross perot. i used to run home and couldn't wait to watch his pie charts. i learned so much from him. and it's almost -- i almost...