we would not have known the end game in rwanda if we had sent troops in and yet i don't think anybody thinks now it wouldn't have been the right thing to do. >> charlie: let me ask one question because you were in the government should the united states have spoken out more strongly at the time of the huge massive demonstrations against the iranian election? >> what was wrong with the iran policy it had been his position that we had not engaged. so he was trying to engage. he was not getting very far but it was in that context that the protests happened and initially there was the sense that we didn't want to interfere for exactly the reasons that jessica is saying. i think in retrospect we would have been better off taking a stronger position but i also think iran is a different context in which the regime has been able to turn that immediately to advantage when anytime the u.s. seems to intervene they turn that to their advantage in a way i do not think qaddafi possibly can. >> charlie: jessica, what circumstances may change your mind on the ground. >> you can't undertake a military

and i think rwanda did have something to do with it.ad secretary clinton, who was first lady during the rwanda genocide and whose husband has said that not intervening is one of his biggest regrets. susan rice, the africa adviser at the time, had a lot of rwanda history there. and you had this sort of very unlikely combination, alliance between the two, along with samantha power, a top a human rights advocate. in a lot of ways, the girls took on the guys. the you had gates on the other hand and the pentagon saying look -- >> and mullen. >> and mullen. you could see from the interview with mullen, how much, you know. but they, once the arab league over the weekend sort of swung behind, there have been so many things nobody expected with the libya case. nobody thought the arab league would come and say yes, we want a no-fly zone as well. once the arab league did and the obama administration was faced with the specter of possibly seeing on tv, the slaughter in benghazi. hillary clinton got during a meeting in paris, in the paris hotel room

that's where everyone in rwanda was going to party and dance when rwanda was the uptight couldn't friday in the easterrl '90s. these people who committed these barbaric crimes, it got contagious and further ruptured the social fabric, two wars and obliterated the infrastructure. these guys are still there and they're still killing civilians all the time. they're a big part in who's committing the rapes and they're the big ones that we need to support the effort to do that despite some pushback. i think it's important to remember there's the cndp. obviously they've committed a lot of crimes and they're part of the army -- congo has very openly said peace first, justice second. they're in a tough spot with that kind of thing. the fdlr there's no question about. that part of the country will not be safe until that militia is dealt with as well as the nlra. thank you. >> one final statement or question. there's no doubt that senator danforth, had he not initiated the work with regards to the comprehensive peace agreement in the congo, there probably would not have been a comprehensive peace

so you have to take it case by case, and certainly in a situation like rwanda, where hundreds of thousands of people were butchered, in retrospect you'd say, oh my goodness, of course that was on a scale that would've justified intervention. >> reporter: another quiz question is whether there is what the just war theory calls a "reasonable chance of success." >> so let's y we do a no-fly zone and gaddafi still sends in ground troops and tanks and manages to defeat the rebels. does the fact that we established a no-fly zone mean we want to actually then put ground troops to deter gaddafi, if he continues to be successful? >> reporter: casey says concerns about potential success have so far prevented the international community from intervening in darfur, even though there is strong consensus that atrocities continue to be committed there. he acknowledges that not acting in a particular situation can also be a moral failure. >> if yohavehe ability to intervene and to stop an injustice or stop an atrocity and don't, i think you do have moral culpability as a result of that. >> reporter: the m

so and i'm also troubled if what they were doing was acting out of the rwanda experience. already that has been blasted because there are so many places which are repeating that great tragedy right now, you've got to have a set of factors on the table. this has got to be a strategic decision. it's got to be namely a military decision. going to war, is about military. >> we are not at war we are at a kinetic military action that is costing us almost half a billion dollars a day. >> we are not in war in iraq and afghanistan. war has never been declared. >> let me ask you this. what puzzles me. women that the old saying in the anti-war demonstrations i think it goes back to greece and women say yes to men who say no and women are saying let's go to war over humanitarian abuses. to me, that something's wrong with that. >> and not only that it's well intentioned. no one wants to see innocents getting slaughtered or civilians protesting for freedom, no one wants to see that from dictatorships. but at the same time, the united states cannot be the world's policeman. number one. n

journalists traveling with one in so-called rebels who are in power today they committed genocide in rwanda and that believe it was the opposite side it was a psychological operation there's no shortage of words on to go to today where people are dying and fifteen hundred people a day in eastern congo journalists go in and out of there but it's not been reported in or same thing with sudan there's conflict going on in certain regions in sudan the conflict in afghanistan but what we're getting is a pro u.s. wrote anything on one sided picture of a situation which fills the media with the idea that there's freedom fighters involved in libya and that there is a government regime there and atrocious terrorist government for the last since one nine hundred seventy roughly this is nonsense libya was an established government whether we like them or not just north korea and he ran our established governments but we like him or not or the civilian government and what's happening against him is a war of aggression with the media serving one side to portray the idea that could happen is a terrorist a

but of course rwanda didn't have any oil with two other american wars being fought in the muslim world death tolls continue to rise. apart from the human cost the u.s. is running not a huge warfare tab considering the fact that we have fifty four percent of federal tax dollars going into the fence and into the destruction of afghanistan and iraq and you have to really wonder how crazy this country is and how willing the american people are to foot the bill both the europeans and the americans are facing huge budget deficits military overstretch it's very it's going to be very hard to explain to the people why they can't have their pensions and right are losing their jobs but there's enough money to throw into a military intervention a country that is far away and is minding its own business and minding its own business is what many would want the u.s. to do but the whole world doesn't have the stomach for it anymore the u.s. seems to have chosen a wait and see approach hoping the united nations will lead the way with the u.s. unsanctioned invasion of iraq still fresh in mind and many f

we're workroom and always including president yoweri museveni in uganda and president talking in rwanda so the argument that obama made that this is a work we're warlord run running a country is just nonsense well i think i i don't really buy the whole war for oil argument because if you look at what happened for what iraq for example i mean i think even the most hardened neo con can see that that whole invading a country for the resources just doesn't work on and it takes you know the pottery barn rule right you break it you pay for it by the time you actually get the operations up and running you don't really have very much to make money off i don't know if i have if i really buy that so what is it lucy do you think that it's about selling defense weapons or testing new weapons in the united states army or they get all the what is called the tough f. twenty two they haven't seen anything about those being deployed they are definitely testing new weapons at this very moment this is just another american on illegal. this cleared it to adventure checking people in and calling it humanita

if >> kimberlee: the two-part of rwanda.he touched on a number of different subjects with this two-part of this interview. is not an option. i wouldat respectfully allow those opinions and i did not support them. it does not live inside my brain. >> what about that your kids are going to read about this and your behavior? dead fill in the blanks? do think that it is sad?-fill in the blanks? >> no. >> what do think it would your sun comes up to you and says i want to try a beer. when your child comes up. >> and to do it here, instead of out and about like an amateur. >> we're also hearing that t m s replacement of 2 in happened. johnston also is john-steakhou-- john stamos has been approached by possibly being incorporated into the gerline machincharlie n sitcom. a new character would be created. with charlie sheen xing the show. >> and we concede that the time line of one of expect what weather. we're able to see the time line. by 8:00 p.m., the shower activity will clip on through to the north bay. intensity increases as to

that's where everyone in rwanda was going to party and dance when rwanda was the uptight couldn't friday in the easterrl '90s. these people who committed these barbaric crimes, it got contious and further ruptured the social fabric, two wars and obliterated the infrastructure. these guys are still there and they're still killing civilians all the time. they're a big part in who's committinghe rapes and they're the big ones that we need to support the effort to do that despe some pushback. i think it's important to remember there's the cndp. obviously they've committed a lot of crimes and they're part of the army -- congo has very open said peace first, justice second. they're in a tough spot with that kind of thing. the fdlr there's no question about. that part of the country will not be safe until that militia is dea with as well as the nlra. thank you. >> one final statement or question. there's no doubt that senator danforth, had he not initiated the work with regards to the comprehensive peace agreement in the congo, tre probably would not have been a comprehensive peace agreement. i

you had rwanda looking over what was happening in zimbabwe. it's so interremelated that a special envoy should not only deal with the problems of the congo, but to be able to coordnate, as a matter uganda was a recipient of a terrorist attack because uganda was assisting in somalia with their troops to protect the government of shaikh -- and without the ugandan troops there the situation would be much worse. well, that's all connected. that at the world cup game, uganda suffered the loss of 20-some of their citizens by al shabaab planting a bomb as people were simply watching the world cup because they were ugandan troops helping in somali. so it's all so connected that it seems it would certainly make a lot of sense that we do have an envoy especially to deal with the drc, but also to have the -- the surrounding countries they're involved in. the fact that so many -- and the tragedy of the congo, as i mentioned earlier with king leopold and houtcountry was just devastated and then once they decided to move forward, the -- the conspiracy of th

i thought we should have intervened in rwanda. that objective changed. have military force to match it. it had immense impact on our prestige and what we wanted to do in the world. my concern is right now that as a former -- as the chairman of the skroijoint chiefs of staff last weekend, circumstances will drive where this goes in the future. >> mona, you're more supportive you have a different take. on whether the u.s. should be leading this. >> absolutely. first of all, i opposed the invasion of iraq. i'm if thenot a fan of foreign intervention. especially one where the united states has a terrible history of the opinion of others. about our involvement. i think that it was a good thing because it was in answer to a call by the libyan transitional national council. i recognize them as representative of the libyan revolution. i think it's essential that the revolutionaries win. gadhafi is taking a lesson and trying to encourage other dictators in the region by saying, you slaughter your people, and you cut this revolution, you nip the revolutionary spir

. >> i do think the specter of rwanda and people who lived through it did hang over this decision. the prospect of hundreds of thousands of people being killed, blood literally running in the streets, was something that -- nobody wanted to stand by the way bill clinton's administration stood by and came to regret it. >> the health-care law passed a year ago this week. a progress report. >> after a century of striving, a year of debate, a historic vote, health care reform is no longer and on that promise. it is the law of the land. >> that was the president obama on march 23 after the law passed. states had sued the obama administration to block implementation of the law. they argue that the individual mandate is unconstitutional. neeina, when will this go to the supreme court? >> in the late fall at the earliest, and be decided in 2012. >> which way? >> i'm not 100% sure. i do know this -- the one group of people that is accepted that is going to happen, and i am the only person here who lives with this every day by marriage, our doctors and hospitals. they are preparing. they are

that's where everyone in rwanda was going to party and dance when rwanda was the uptight couldn't friday in the easterrl '90s. these people who committed these barbaric crimes, it got contagious and further ruptured the social fabric, two wars and obliterated the infrastructure. these guys are still there and they're still killing civilians all the time. they're a big part in who's committing the rapes and they're the big ones that we need to support the effort to do that despite some pushback. i think it's important to remember there's the cndp. obviously they've committed a lot of crimes and they're part of the army -- congo has very openly said peace first, justice second. they're in a tough spot with that kind of thing. the fdlr there's no question about. that part of the country will not be safe until that militia is dealt with as well as the nlra. thank you. >> one final statement or question. there's no doubt that senator danforth, had he not initiated the work with regards to the comprehensive peace agreement in the congo, there probably would not have been a comprehensive peace

we said that we'd never again after rwanda, never again, after the holocaust never again. gaddafi forces were on the outskirts of benghazi and he said himself he would go house-to-house and kill and murder people. thank god at the 11th hour, with the no-fly zone, the quote, "no-fly zone" we prevented that from happening. now clearly the momentum has shifted dramatically and the initiative are in the hands, the second aspect of it, of course, is that if you had allowed gaddafi to do that, as soon as the signal to the other leader in the middle east and dictators it's okay to massacre your own people to stay in power. finally, well, this is a moment of historic proportions. and this will give us a golden opportunity to help with democracy and freedom throughout the arab world. >> chris: senator lieberman, what should president obama tell the american people tomorrow night? >> well, i think president obama should begin in exactly the terms that john mccain just described. explain why we are there and why it's vitally important that the united states is part of an internationa

. >> i do think the specter of rwanda and people who lived through it did hang over this decision. the prospect of hundreds of thousands of people being killed, blood literally running in the streets, was something that -- nobody wanted to stand by the way bill clinton's administration stood by and came to regret it. >> the health-care law passed a year ago this week. a progress report. >> after a century of striving, a year of debate, a historic vote, health care reform is no longer and on that promise. it is the law of the land. >> that was the president obama on march 23 after the law passed. states had sued the obama administration to block implementation of the law. they argue that the individual mandate is unconstitutional. neeina, when will this go to the supreme court? >> in the late fall at the earliest, and be decided in 2012. >> which way? >> i'm not 100% sure. i do know this -- the one group of people that is accepted that is going to happen, and i am the only person here who lives with this every day by marriage, our doctors and hospitals. they are preparing. they are

in reined the international community stood by -- rwanda the international community stood by as 800,000 were massacred and in bosnia a no-fly zone was not enough to prevent slaughter. in wap in the exclusive metro -- in wap in the scluche metro between the senators and congress, the world is keshed about what would -- is concerned about what would happen if americanot lead. >> against the popular movement of the people without recourse is serious question for all of us. >> if we stand by and let it happen, for sure, that will be a black mark on our record for a long time. >> but obama has given pause by the military reality, too. the u.s. military says stopping all flights by colonel gaddafi's air force would be a complex operation taking units away from afghanistan. first, air defenses around the government's strongholds of tripoli would have to be taken out. risking civilian casualties. and enforcing a in fly zone would need hundreds of fighter jets supported by pore larger air crast with radar and refueling. war ships for radar cover and helicopters for search and rescue. in iraq suc

in many cases this is a blueprint for what an obama administration how they would have handled a rwanda or sudan. >> let's take a close are look at what the coalition forces were aiming at. more than 20 tar fwets the pentagon identified 11 of them around tripoli and other towns in western libya. joining us now we tired u.s. army general barry mccaffrey. >> very impressive operation. 1110 toma hawk missiles joined by one british submarine. the notion is create a benign environment so the british and french fighter bombers can get in and establish the no fly zone and the question is will they or will they not operate against the center of gravity tanks, armored artillery or not. >> that begins to sound like a war when you describe it that way. >> is this a de facto attempt of forcing a regime change? >> i hope so. he is a threat to his own people. he is hated by the arab league. enough for them to endorse this action which is highly unusual. the one concern i have is where are the arab neighbors, the egyptians, saudis. more importantly will we take military action that achieves our purpos

are not going to find ourselves in another situation as we did in the '90's in the balkans and in rwanda. as of yesterday, his own director of national intelligence, james crocker, said in testimony in front of congress he said, look, the way things are going now carks daffy's going to prevail and i think that -- gwen: which was not exactly on message. >> it was not on message but it, you would assume, would be the best reflection of what our own intelligence is telling us, which does shugget there is some urgency toward getting together some kind of international effort and if not the question becomes what is the united states willing to do? >> the president was quick to deal with that when he was asked about it at the press conference and said, well, that may be a reflection of the fact qaddafi has greater forces, armaments, et cetera, all of which is correct but that's not policy and policy is set by the president. but we're still waiting to see exactly what that policy is going to look like in a week or two. gwen: how difficult is it for a president who has such a crowded agenda, liv

but this was not something, tavis, that was shaping up in my way say like rwanda. this wasn't a war in which one ethnic group was out to commit genocide against another. this was not iraq where you had all sorts of sectarian violence between and among sunni, shiah, and kurds. rather this was something that was narrower, it was political. in that sense again, it was a civil war, so i do not believe that it was the intention of the government of gaddafi, and this is not to defend that government, but i do not believe it was their intention to essentially try to eliminate a large segment of the libyan population. i do not think this was a humanitarian crisis on anything like, say, the scale of arewanda, dull fewer or the balkans. >> since you mention darfur, it's clear to most americans, certainly to her that we, the u.s., have not stepped up in darfur as we could or certainly as one might argue should. i'll let you decide what word you want, but could or should, we have not stepped up as we might in darfur and yet we jumped right into libya. my radio partner on sthil

but surely there has to be a way in places where either nobody is prepared to do what rwanda has doneor where people want to be able to recognize both their separateness and their participation in the larger community. it is interesting because there were wanted and still acknowledge their history. they have a gripping holocaust museum and they talk about it. they just say they have made it impossible to repeat it. maybe they have and maybe they haven't, but my instinct is that what the irish try to do or even what the lebanese try to do which i think would work if everybody else would leave them alone, but lebanon has a very complicated religious ethnic cultural landscape in which the sunni muslims get the prime minister ship and the shia is the speaker of the house and then a christian is the president and they allocate this and that is the way they share power but they have tried to create a system in which it is in your interest to get something done instead of your interest to veto. we need to try to help that happen in the balkans either in law or in fact. the second i would lik

nothing to do with us except for our oil companies so if we're going to say we're going to stop a rwanda we're going to stop a serbia were to stop a genocide we're going to stop then then we really have to have the internet because they who's going to stop it americans force are going to stop it oh and for you know enjoy it was here in the backyard in the midnight in saudi i mean that in the in the one nine hundred ninety s. in the backyard of europe it took ninety five percent american forces to do anything in bosnia we to come overseas and take care of a problem in europe's backyard america's forces is really the only one that can do these type of things but let me let me say this i think that what we should remember that could be in the aftermath of the iraq war was afraid and that's why he gave up his nuclear weapons he didn't want to end up. saddam hussein before a military force is used in this instance i think we should send it on boy secretly or covertly to warn me that this could happen and he possibly could go live his days off and so on you know zimbabwe or and what about he i

apartheid in south africa had also been involved in the tribunals in the former yugoslavia and in rwanda looking at war crimes in the un asked him to. head up an investigation into the fighting gaza which he then led in the spring of two thousand and nine and issued a report in september of that year the report was immediately regarded as controversial because they found that both hamas and israel committed work crimes and possible crimes against humanity in their fighting. i thought that was one of the most. really extraordinary things about this is. that's a very very strong language i mean he didn't just find that they committed war crimes in my recollection the report is correct he actually or the report actually suggested that the people involved in those war crimes in those two institutions in from israel from laws should be sitting in the hague in the in the dock and being tried for war. so the report actually presented both israel and hamas with an opportunity to investigate themselves. and then the report said if those reports weren't up to snuff then they would recommend for th

responsibility to protect their special place for attacks was born out of the failure to respond and rwanda and so they need to tell your story spawn to holocaust genocide around the world created by the u.n. and praised by advisers close to president. r two p. states that sovereignty is a privilege not a right you have a responsibility as a sovereign country to not massacre. and that the international community can intervene when governments abuse their own people. but critics say r two p. is riddled with pockets see and self interest and even call it as i would say humanitarian period is then you know you go into any number of places where they supported dictators and also. president obama justified his decision to bomb libya and r.t. if you ground some nations may be able to turn a blind eye to atrocities another conference the united states of america is different. and as president i refuse to wait for the images of slaughter and mass graves before taking action. but as a candidate for president so far to peace wasn't sufficient to keep u.s. forces in iraq quote by that argument you wou

president why we're involved in the first place i'm sure that kosovo might be used as a shining example rwanda as the example. what not to do when you move away from the argument that we intervene in civil conflicts out of the goodness of our hearts and effort to save innocent civilians well it becomes questionable as the sole reason when you look at the rain gamut and syria they're all comes back to why the us is there and what's in it for us i think the words of defense secretary robert gates on this past weekend continue to echo. no i don't think it's a vital interest for the united states but we clearly have interests there and it's a part of the region which is of vital interest for the united states and so is there anything that obama can say tonight will make us forget those words by defense secretary gates more of that here to discuss that with me is military analyst j. dilla bairstow and jim hansen retired special ops master sergeant and military blogger for black eye dot net gentlemen thank you both for being here today with you now apparently according to sources within the white ho

we continue to work with the rewanr rwanda groups s because it is threat to the violence against the civilians and is a major obstacle to peace and stability in the region. that continue z s to be a top priority. >> i had a chance to speak to m mr.mese earlier in regard to the cndp. has that lessened the tension there in the area or as his forces still roaming and doing destructive work? >> the encunda's detention or house arrest is one area. but you still have continued members of the fdlr who continue to rome. and you have other high profile individuals who are creating havoc. and one is a war criminal and part of the groups. he fought with the forces and he is very well armed. that remains a problem. >> i think one of the issues we are facing with the fdlr in terms of the community development issues is the command and control is not clear on different parts of the east on where they have impact and where they don't in terms of command and control. i think both the bilateral agreement gives one framework but i think we'll have to work as an international community both at the poli

rwanda. and rwanda, conclusion of military action, with a dominant role with a new constitution. these are the principal victims. they are so allergic to what they lend to through, their bosnia or kosovo that it is illegal to run for office and ethnic issues and to even talk about the distinct claims of ethnic backgrounds. one lady came a man was subject to arrest and not allowed to run for president because she wanted to run on a platform that said the hutu had legitimate ethnically defined grievances. it is very popular in part because once they got on to their common future, they hatta per-capita income of $698 to $1,100 in 2010. these talked about the positive things they talked about. there has to be an area where no one is prepared to do what rwanda has done or what people want to recognize both of their separateness and participation in the larger community. it is interesting because the rwandans do acknowledge their history. they have a gripping holocaust museum. they made it impossible to repeat it. later they have and maybe they haven't. my instinct is what the irish tr

uganda was arguing and rwanda was looking at what was happening in zimbabwe. it is so interrelated, a special envoy should not only deal with the problems of the congo, but to be able to coordinate. as a matter of fact, uganda was a recipient of a terrorist attack, because uganda was assisting in somalia with their troops to protect the government of the transitional federal government and you had troops there. the situation would be much worse. it's all connected at the world cup game, uganda suffered the loss of 20 some of their citizens by a bomb as ep people were watching the world cup because troops of uganda were helping in somalia. it's all connected and it would make a lot of sense that we do have enenvoy and to have the surrounding countries there involved. and the fact that so many -- the tragedy of the congo with the king and how the country was devastated and once they decided to move forward, the conspiracy of the west to come together and have the murder, i'm glad we can't forget the past. if we know the past, we know what positions we are in. co

is classic propaganda when the united nations is going along with the blustering that happened in rwanda back in the early ninety's you know nobody cared when saddam hussein was a us puppet and virtually repressed his people and used us nerve gas on the kurds it was a great act of patriotism when al qaida was used to start the war with the serbs in kosovo they were the great allies of freedom and then of course when they were busy using al qaida the mujahideen to start a war with russia that was a great activity liberty and freedom and now mcclatchy newspapers even reporting that they had commander of the rebels in the east of libya was trained for decades in virginia and a cia and is now commanding the al qaeda forces and i have fox news headline and we're all a lockie now number one an al qaida under bin ladin secretly meets at the pentagon and has dinner with the secretary of the army and that's fox news associated press alkali that was created by the cia and there are a few low level terrorists that operate on their own but at the top they use al qaeda to attack the us they can take

the united states got distracted by the balkans and ignored it rwanda. the ivory coast feels like we are ignoring them for the arab countries. it seems hypocritical. ont: let's look at something the voice of america website. the u.n. refugee agency says 1 million people have fled their homes in the ivory coast because of post-election violence. the mass flight is been feared by -- fueled by fears of an all out war. up to 1 million people have been displaced from cities. that is coming to us from the voice of america website. our next call is from san antonio, texas. esther.d, asto caller: this is your second call from san antonio. it is tough to follow congressman smith. he knows his stuff. i am a republican. i have to agree with what he said. he made an awful lot of sense. i think nato should be involved any time there is a war going on in the world. i think we should have a stronger nato. congressmen should have a chance to vote on whether we enter a war. i think we should have a stronger and nato as we had in the bosnia situation where we can bring th

disast they're he was threatening, qaddafi was threatening, of the dimensions, relatively speaking, rwandaunacceptable, not simply to the united states but to the international community. i do not think there is a coherent strategy for where we go. what is the end? what is victory? what's the exit strategy? how do we know it's over? a new government there--. >> suarez: you heard ray talk to ambassador rice when he asked is it civilians or what about the people fighting against qaddafi? where is the distinction there? >> another thing that's disconcerting i think most in of the foreign policy issues we've talked about for decades, the u.s. has been the lead player in the west or developed world. we've sort of been one leading, our decisions are sort of been the leading decision. here we're clearly not the lead player. it's u.k. and france and other people and we're following along on the caboose, so it's disconcerting in the sense we feel like the u.k. often feels as the secondary player. and so the question is how much is the president really supporting this, and how much is he being dragg

if you buy petrol or manufactured goods in southern sudan, in uganda, in rwanda, in burundi even in congo, those goods almost certainly came in through kenya. so the kenyan economy is benefiting enormously from this en troupeau status. >>reporter: the development plans include a deep-water port and oil refinery on pate island, just north of lamu,together with a military port and complete infrastructure network in northern kenya, including new airports, towns, railways and roads. it's a project that many believe is vital to kenya's economic future. >>onditi: the level of investment that are going to be there is going to be very huge and if you look in termsof employment, it will be a huge employment that is going to be created. and those one who want to carry the offshore manufacturing, so that they can easily get access to the east african community market, they will be able to put up their packaging and finishing products, machineries within the lamu. >>reporter: the port, kenya's second deep-water facility after mombasa, would be the main gateway for sea-borne trade for not only souther

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