rwanda has a unique and deeply tragic history. yet it is a history that we the jewish people could understand. this village in rwanda, shalom. >> i am sure that you heard about what i was doing and i heard about what he was doing, and i am the founder of the youth village in rwanda. it was really the connection between holocaust, genocide, often, and i don't understand why we can't learn from each other. we need to put these kids in an environment where they're given a value system, where they're given support, where they're given education. i went to see if there was a model to follow. >> she took israeli innovation and how do you raise a generation of orphans and has brought that model to rwanda. it is a very expensive model. >> this technology doesn't only work in direct sunlight, but it also works when there is clouds. everybody has to help. we're going to unroll it to the other side. >> it made sense to connect what he was doing with what i was doing, and yosef said i am bringing these solar farms to africa and what do you th

in issues like, you know, how to rebuild in rwanda after genocide or the subject of the earthquake or, you know, some of the pretty grim things that we've seen, you know, epidemic disease. finding ways to involve people. or homelessness, lack of education, all the kind of things i tend to think about. i think there has to be a way to tell these stories more compellingly. >> charlie: suppose that you are a religious man and you believe that there will be an opportunity to go to some after life and god stops you there or st. peter, whoever does this, and says, if you answer this question right, farmer, i'm going to let you in. >> i'm going to give you a green card. snairlts give you a green card. here's the question. do you know why you are the way you are? i mean, the themes are the same and you do have this sense of commitment. and you're looking not only for justice and value, but you're also, you know, there is a real important, continuing stream through you having to do with the fact of the way we look at those who are poor and suffering. >> i mean, i see that potential in everyone

if you work on a team, going to rwanda for me from haiti was a good thing. organized and orderly and it's hard to believe when they think about rwanda. they think about death and destruction and despair but that is what it was like. it's also a way to say i'm going to take a break from this part of the work and do some other work. that is why i write as well. stop, go back a little bit and say where we going and how are we doing? thank you for sticking with it. [applause] >> i am chuck woolery. i have been in global health efficacy of the year and i'm concerned about the development goals and the former calls for political will. president carter and the world mission of hunger back in the late 1970s talked about achieving goals of ending hunger and addressing injustice issues and said basically we don't. there will be secured consequences. later hiv/aids come in a lot of those problems and there was some -- you mentioned that we probably wouldn't achieve these goals without linking it to our own self-interest but particularly many of the national security. i

they were building a woman center in rwanda. this woman forget her son's killer. schieffer gave her son's killer. if she can forget her son's killer, who are we to forgive someone who hurt us in here? he came to her and apologized and refused and he came again and refuse and finally she decides i have to forgive him so i can relieve myself for not paying. when i see her, i say if she can forgive, who am i not to forgive? if she could look that beautiful, with a headscarf like this, who am i not to pay attention to how i look at how i should be presentable? if she can how grace and peace, who am i not to have grace and peace? i learned how to apply makeup from bosnian women believe mcknight and i learned how to pluck my eyebrows at upper lip for afghan women. i came from iraqi within two weeks ago and they said we know the world sees us as the comes, but we are by far not the. we have been at last, but we are strong women. if you knew me, you would care. there's also reason, my farewell after 18 years of running as a ceo, the journey of understanding, what is that

well, obviously except for rwanda and darfur and bosnia and cambodia. point taken. point taken. we as america have never let something like that happen before. in syria with this particular assad. look, the point is this. obama is doing it all wrong. what do you guys think? time to arm the rebels. >> yes to arming the rebels. there are more radical islamic fighters there. let's give the right weapons to the right people. >> jon: right weapons to the right people. ahh! maybe we could do background checks. no, that wouldn't work. all right. so the plan is now arm the rebels. >> there's two wars to fight. one to get assad out of there. the second war unfortunately is going to be between the majority of syrians and the radical islam i haves who have poured into syria. we need to be ready to fight two wars. >> jon: okay. so two wars. let me just add that up quickly because i know we're already in two. so, let me see. that's about four. we have four wars. that's do-able. it seems like it will take a lot of boots on the ground, however. >> you don't need boots on the ground. >> we don'

they'll also travel to rwanda. they met with congo's president and discussed a flair up in fighting near the eastern city of goma. >> we are deeply concerned about the arenrecent recurrence of violence. >> he says he'll visit goma to see the situation by hand. they brokered a peace deal in february to end years of violence. kim announced $1 billion in new aid for the region. he said the funds will be used to improve education, medical care, and build hydroelectric facilities. >>> africa. a continent of promise and plunder. more than one billion people in 50 countries fill a cultural mosaic. "newsline" is looking at the challenges and the opportunities on continent in a lead up to a conference in tokyo. don't miss our coverage on may 27. >>> japanese adventurer has reached the top of mount everest at the age of 80. this is not his first attempt, he beat it twice before at the ages of 70 and 75. nhk world explains miura's passion for adventure. >> reporter: muira at base camp at 5300 meters in napal may 16th. he clim

he was the state department's point man after rwanda.to go to rwanda, make sense, if that's physically, emotionally, in any way possible, out of the genocide there. once he was there he realized that the only way to solve problems like that in the world would be through the local justice system. he's a harvard lawyer and just a brilliant guy and has got the biggest heart of almost anyone i've ever known. he left the state department, told his wife that -- and they had four children within 3 1/2 years. >> wow. >> that god had sort of laid it on his heart to do something in this world. >> he made a big change. >> that was -- well, quite a few years ago. and 500 lawyers later they -- we raised almost $1 million that night. they rescue victims of slavery and other violent abuse all over the world. it's an incredible organization. >> it was very, very, very moving. i was there for part of the evening. and it makes you feel like i can't believe this is all happening and why aren't i doing something to help. >> they go into like cambodia and re

we've seen the same thing in rwanda and other places. while you talk about what happens when malaria comes back, if you protected a child for a few years and then they no longer have protection, it's almost worse than ever having protected the child, because they were never exposed and they have no immunity. if they then become infected, the larry will be far worse and can lead to fatal forms of the malaria because they were protected and became unprotected. that's what the data the chairman mentioned on the innovation to just replaced nets is so striking and is such an important moral issue for us. what the global fund dedicated $450 million this year to reduce that gap from 77 million to 24 million bed nets, but we still have some gaps. that's just to maintain, to achieve the vision that we talk about for complete control. the bottom line of this is it's not a bottomless pit. this is not what we would have done for the last thousands of years in the fight against malaria. we are on the tipping point where today we can say we can comple

. >> in rwanda, south africa, other countries we found that hospitals are makes us sicker. >> processpy farmers use and hasn't been transformed in decades. >> we have a problem or set of problems important to them they will implement if we can help them solve them. if we can put two teams of stanford graduate students at your disposal, what would you have them work on? the project right behind you it has a very high defennsity of spinal cord injury victims from the earthquake and they're trying to redesign the city and all the structures in it to be wheelchair friendly and great project for us. >> you have a bag here on the wheelchair. what are you doing with this specifically? >> the med students doing their research said spinal cord injured patients, biggest problems utis and pressure sores. how do you deal with pressure sores? you give people cushions or have them move around a lot. the best cushion is over there, $600. so how can we create a cushion that isn't just a cheap cushion or uniquely addresses the needs of hait any this is connected to the wheel. as this wheel rotates, th

based in south africa, he traveled to some of the most dangerous places for us is, somalia, rwanda, iraqpeter jennings as apartheid fell in south africa and most recently covering the election of the new pope. this image of trevor there on the right. off on the horizon the island where nelson mandela spent most of his time. prison. david wright saying trevor was like crocodile dundee with a sound kit, a veteran with good humor and steady nerves he made so many of us better. with bill we are on the rhinos in zambia, and our trip to meet the jailer who famously became mandela's dear friend. tonight our thoughts are with james mitch willing there on the left who so often traveled with trevor and with trevor's family, his partner donna and his beautiful daughter gabrielle la. hearse was the name that brought out the biggest smile. >> all in our thoughts tonight. he could make us laugh so hard, our stomachs would ache. so many of us tonight with a bit of heart ache. when we come back on the broadcast, we all remember the true stars of this day, our moms. tonight in their own words, children a

it is reminiscent of what you are used to seeing perhaps in the syrian civil war on both sides in rwanda in cambodia it really is just such a personal and brutal sort of act really not only beheaded this year and they were also from eyewitness accounts were almost trying to disinvite him trying to remove organs i think one of the witnesses said but i think people they also why would they choose such brutal methods to put their message across well i'm not sure i can really understand it or explain it except that it does seem to be this phenomenon you're seeing in syria are both sides you've seen it elsewhere in the world where the hatred is so intense and so kirsan all that it's not enough just to mock your enemy were to tell them that you have two million eight and i defy all the body cannot essentially what happened here your in the states do you see any parallels between what happened in boston and what's happening there in london. well you know obviously austin caused a lot of injuries which were every bit as gruesome austin was a move our quote unquote traditional sort of attack with

of war, remember bill clinton's greatest lament, about his presidency he did not act to stop the rwandaa this is an epoc e-- epocag for him. >> they are ones -- in bill crystal's case committing troops to syria. thlet's get the facts. >> i think we don't know who is on the anti-assad side. lou: can i say, let's talk about this -- well, we have a second. what a delight it is on have three of you here on broadcast to engagement and. edgexchange of views and walk out all of us holding hands, tipping down a tulip-laden lane. >> thank you all for being here. lou: that is it for us, coming up tomorrow, attorney for state deputy benghazi whistle-blower. victoria will join us to talk about benghazi, what may be the end of the stonewall put in place by this administration, we'll see. we hope you will join us as the truth is revealed here tomorrow night, good night from new york. neil: housing recovery is on, why are so membership buyers not in? -- why are so many buyers not in? a look at a comeback that is hard to doubt but clearly a lot of americans still do doubt, case closed or case case shil

humanitariant the blunders in rwanda and bosnia, darfur andvia, and now syria.can do so much more, the united states of america, whether by ourselves or with a coalition like we did during the war under fo -- gulf bush number one. a lot of things we can do besides army rebels. this is a political thing that drives me crazy. host: let's get a response. guest: thank you for your service. that was the best c-span call and i've been doing the show since 2002. that was a very smart call. 2p,raised an issue of the r the right to protect their there's a notion in u.s. national security among liberal interventionist and we'll conservatives that believe the u.s. in addition to securing its national interest believe also have an obligation to the world to prevent genocide. and to intervene in the humanitarian areas or there are civilians being slaughtered not even by chemical weapons. the sharp side has used heavy military aircraft and scud missiles against civilian populations. that itself should continue to shock us. it is absolutely not awful and horrible. why think th

in rwanda they have a process hundreds of thousands of perpetrators with no legal system that resortedto a form of a long-standing form of tribal justice where the village, the village essentially served as prosecutor and judge and jury of the people in the village who had committed the harm. and that includes the victims being part of it. they are all imperfect and they are all woefully imperfect when you start talking about crimes and transgressions and horrors of vast scale but i submit that only brings to light the many imperfections that are less glaring perhaps, less grand in scope when you look at what goes on in our legal system in this country. >> can i say something in response to what was said a moment ago? as someone who has grown-up in the home of survivors and his grandparents were murdered in auschwitz, i was very happy that they had a trial at nuremberg. i wanted the world to see what had happened but i didn't want to go at industry and just a shooting nazis if they were not see them even though i would've felt that if i had a chance to do it. i wanted the world to see

these of that atrocities will never happen gain after rwanda is a total failure. we can look at the humanitarian blunders in rwanda and bosnia right hereand put it in syria. we can do so much more, the united states of america, whether by ourselves or with the coalition, permanent coalition like we did during the first gulf war under bush number one. a lot of things we can do besides arming the rebels. that is a political thing that drives me crazy. guest: that is the best c-span call and i have been on since 2002 and he raised an issue of the what's equaled the right to protect, there is a notion in u.s. national security among liberal intervisionists that in addition to securing its national interests believes it has an obligation to the world to prevent again side and to intervene in the humanitarian interests where civilians are being slaughtered not even by chemical weapons. assad has used heavy military aircraft and scud missiles against the civilian population. that itself should continue to shock us and it is absolutely awful and horrible. i mean, i think

i thought you were great in rwanda. tell me a lie right now off the top of your head. >> you've got great hair. >> what do you think about my outfit? remember it's national honesty day. >> i think you look like you're homeless. >> you know, we are wearing orange. why is that? >> because today in the netherlands it is wednesday but today also the queen handed responsibility to her son so today actually will also be king day. >> okay. so happy kings and queens day. depending on the weekend i'm either a king or a queen. is that a lie or not? >> well, talk to me saturday. you'll find out, cowboy. >> i'm going to ask you a question. see if you can give me the truth. what's in the brown bag? >> soda. >> soda. oh, okay. let's check it out. ding ding ding. hello, for loco. not even legal in the city anymore. lies! lies! can i have a sip? any final thoughts on lying? you haven't talked much. >> no. >> not much of a talker? hold on to that one then. better. national honesty day. have we learned anything today? that the truth hurt

you have gone to carozza, rwanda, and eastern congo.u talk about experiences and what they left you with? >> the condo was the hardest because there i saw people will just do anything for gold and silver and whenever they can get and they care absolutely nothing about the suffering of the people. as you know, the congo is called the worst place on the planet to be if you are a woman. and i saw that in action. i saw the result of such horrible atrocities in that place. but this is something people should be very aware of in places where this type of atrocity has not yet happened because it is crucial to see ourselves always as a part of whatever is going on because we are. this is one planet and we are one people. we learn from each other. we learn the awful things just as clearly as we learn the good things. if you want to see what is the possibility for are really dreadful future, even here, go to the congo and places where people are fighting over minerals and resources that actually the people who live there will never benefit from.

i have come not -- i had dinner with the president of rwanda. invited to a conversation.ch, by the way, tony blair, one of the great, you know, two hours a has been to any form with a world leader. liz: he was here with us in this very chair and has some very pointed out about the eurozone. was fascinating to talk about, and you were just on a panel. evolving opportunities in the capital markets. at a time when interest rates are so unbelievably low and cash is almost zero, who needs evolving? we need ideas. >> i was saying in the panel, i work for mike in the 1980's. i never imagined the high-yield market yielding just under five and half percent. we had some bonds to yield 5% per quarter. 18-20% yields. liz: how do you dig up undiscovered investing ideas and share them with our investor / your audience? >> they have been in business for 20 years. we have over 70 investment professionals. a lot of what we find that is the most interesting is things that we direct resource. with a huge amount of excess in the capital market, smaller and middle-market companies in the unit

this is not the same, and as someone who has cared and worked on issues like conga and rwanda, and sedan, there is a strategic interesting of being more involved. >> yes, i mean, if assad is being sustained by a constant flow of iranian transport plans into the airport there, and so you hear people talk about these various options, they start shooting those transport planes down, they bomb the runways, what happens then? but this is iran's most important ally, and they need syria very, very badly, so when senator mccain makes the argument, let's hurt syria, so we can hurt iran, that's a pretty compelling argument, but i think you're talking about two things here, this is obviously a humanitarian catastrophe. increasingly the war in syria is a strategic catastrophe. if this war goes on another year, it's already spreading, it's spreading into jordan, spreading into lebanon, it's taking off in iraq. can the region sustain it? >> and in terms of the numbers, glen, 1.4 million refugees pouring into neighboring regions, today the u.s. announced additional human teenager assistance in response

what did bill clinton do to stop the genocide in rwanda?sunk in in a very clear way. the issue of humanitarian intervention abroad remains a controversial and contested one today, as illustrated by libya and syria. president obama goes into libya partly on humanitarian grounds. he gets criticized from the right. he gets criticized from the left. he doesn't go into syria. what happens, he gets criticized from the right. he gets criticized from the left. >> well, alan, take a position on that. i think there are very good lessons to learn from those arguments that we waited too long to intervene in world war ii. what should we learn? what should the president be linking about as he perseverates over what to do in syria? >> i think syria is a vast humanitarian crisis and i think president obama will be in for a lot of criticism just like franklin roosevelt has been for not acting early enough, at least in some ways to try to stem the bloodshed and stem the violence there. on roosevelt, though, the ultimate judgment we came up with is this. roos

in rwanda they had a process, hundreds of thousands of perp raters -- perpetrators with virtually no legal system where the village, essentially, serves as prosecutor, judge and jury of the people in the village who have committed the harm. and that includes the victims being part of this. so there are a variety of ways. they're all imperfect, and they're all woefully imperfect when you start talking about crimes and transgressions and horrors of this vast scale. but i submit that that only, that only brings to light the many imperfections that are less glaring perhaps, less grand if scope when you look at what goes on in our legal system in this country. >> can i say something in response to what thane said a moment ago? as, you know, someone who has grown up in the home of survivors and whose grandparents were murdered in auschwitz, i was very happy that they had a trial at nuremberg. i wanted the world to see what had happened. i didn't want to go out in the street and just start shooting nazis because they were nazis even though i would have felt good if i'd had a chance to do it

. >> and there was a concern we hadn't reacted in rwanda, hadn't acted fast enough in kosovo.re were things that were not easy but doable and didn't destabilize whole regions. you kind of carried that lesson into iraq where it turned out not to have any validity whatsoever. >> and there were successful interventions in the 1990s. >> right. so that's what i worry about here. we talked about there are certain things we can do in targeted air strikes, might be easier, nothing's easy, but really nothing is easy. and if it was easy, the administration would be doing it. i don't want to give them too much credit. there's obviously disarray over there. but when i see lindsey graham beating the drum for more war and i see this becoming a partisan battle where republicans are trying to paint themselves as hawkish, i think the american skepticism about where this is going is very valid. the american people are very smart about this. >> i think the american public should know at this point the limitations of american military power. >> yes. >> there are real limitations and sort of the e

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i know we have had these tragedies in rwanda.et thrown out. >> i think we will learn something interest inning this namely, are the russians to be a partner for us in some parts of the world particularly this one or are they most interested in getting us involved and stuck so that we pay huge price and they indirectly benefit from it and we will find out. >> the president said he has talked to putin about the boston bombers but one wondering what the rest of the conversation is about. >> even that is kind of curious. here is the bomber who the russians come and warn us is dangerous. we don't follow up or at least we don't take it seriously. then a year later, he goes to russian. he goes the most violent part of the sort of muslim upriseing in russia, spends there six months and comes back here. what was the russian secret service doing? >> they have a tape of had him talking to his mother along jihadist lines. i'd like to see that tape. >> what happened brg the six months? he is in a region terrorist groups are operating and they

it tells me today when we try to help farmers in rwanda to have heard the stories of people who seem to be poor, but in fact were rich. don't ever romanticize poverty. it is way overrated. but do not denigrate the people who live in it. there is a mountain of evidence that there is a lot of dignity there. i saw those stories when i was young. when i was older, i moved to a town that was the polar opposite of the one i was born in. springsi saw those stories whe, the first land set aside under andrew jackson as a natural reserve. thomas jefferson sent a friend of his there to look at the hot sulphur springs to see what the profits were because people bathing in them since the 16th century when a man thought he discovered the fountain of youth. a large number of people left littlend their way to my home town. this was when world war ii ended. there i was in the middle of arkansas with a doctor running a restaurant. who was from czechoslovakia. with a greek orthodox community with two synagogues, with muslims coming from syria and elsewhere. was when world war ii ended. there i was in t

it tells me today when we try to help farmers in rwanda to have heard the stories of people who seem to be poor, but in fact were rich. don't ever romanticize poverty. it is way overrated. but do not denigrate the people who live in it. there is a mountain of evidence that there is a lot of dignity there. i saw those stories when i was young. when i was older, i moved to a town that was the polar opposite of the one i was born in. a national park, the first land set aside under andrew jackson as a natural reserve. thomas jefferson sent a friend of his there to look at the hot sulphur springs to see what the profits were because people bathing in them since the 16th century when a man thought he discovered the fountain of youth. a large number of people left and found their way to my little home town. there i was in the middle of arkansas with a doctor running a restaurant. with a greek orthodox community with two synagogues, with muslims coming from syria and elsewhere. all in my little home town. so i saw a microcosm of the world, even though i was living in the segregated south, wi

there were two events in rwanda and bosnia that the lawyers argue whether it is a genocide or not.t is not 100 sermon genocide. this is speaking about internal conflict that people are dealing in masses. even though it is an internal problem, and the international community should do something about it. it doesn't matter whether their kids with bullets are chemical weapons. it is the same. -- or chemical weapons. it is the same. they're not standing up to their duty. we are all under the drama of iraq 2003. actioneople rest to an that was not -- rush to an action that was not necessary. you can do the same with inaction. unfortunately, this is happening with the action. do not think for a moment that we're recommending another in boot on the ground. you can really change the perception of others. you can do everything. this can be done by a safe haven. it without even the syrian operation. what are the consequences? a good the conference is day to speak about it. i will stop here and will be very happy to take questions. >> can you address the non- conventional effect against iraq?

in the '90s there were two events in rwanda and bosnia, that the lawyers argue whether it's a genocide or not. because it's not 100% genocide. and then the international community have decided that there is a norm, a new norm which calls the duty to protect, dtp. and this is speaking about internal conflict, that people are killed in masses. and even though it's an internal problems of the country, international community should do something about it. and for me it doesn't matter whether they are kids with bullets or with chemical weapons, it's the same. and the international community is not standing up to its duties. we are all under -- [inaudible] 2002. which may be people rush to an action that was not necessarily. but you can do the same mistake with an action. and all the argument, not to do anything about syria that we helped in the last 18 months, are unfortunately happening with inaction. and if we would not take some action and don't think for a moment that i am a commanding, the commanding another invents or another boots on the ground, but you can really change the percepti