>> compared to ryan. >> come on now! ryan is reversed robin hood. this is reaganomics on steroids. the guy has tax breaks for the rich and all the pain is shifted to medicare recipients. seniors. this is the beginning of a conversation and democrats shouldn't run from it. both sides have been cowardly about the deficit. it's just that there's more anxiety on the right. but the left with exception of dick cheney and few others who said don't matter, especially with something they want to buy, no sense of panic and no need to panic. unless ryan left social security out which he should. so social security is not in some vent contrary to those who say it's bankrupt. but sensibly medicare does need to be dealt with one way or the other. and whoever does it -- bloc grant. >> medicaid bloc grant which means -- under ryan's plan, it would be. which means you're going to have some shortfall,. >> you don't see anything in the ryan plan that you like? >> well, i see a lot that i like. i just see a lot that i don't luke too. >>> think it will go away or do you agree that -- it will be a kind o

and ryan walked into it because ryan was so extreme in his proposal. >> so obama? >> obama playing catchup. obama won. >>> g.o.p. 2012 fever! >> america's best days are still ahead. that's why today i'm announcing my exploratory committee for the presidency of the united states. >> former massachusetts republican governor mitt romney announced this week an exploratory committee to assist him in determining whether he should seek to become the official g.o.p. candidate to challenge barack obama for the office of president of the united states. that committee will doubtless focus on romney care. the massachusetts health care reform law enacted five years ago this week. the romney care law says that everyone in massachusetts must have health coverage, and that employers with 10 or more workers must make it available to those employees and must cover some of the romney care insurance costs. now, romney care closely mirrors obama care. many believe. and this will turn off republican primary voters, which means no g.o.p. official presidential candidate status for romney,

had he read that ryan plan? it is indexed. >> index at a cost of living, not health care. >> let me just go back to my point about the competing visions. paul ryan also has a vision for america, which he announced today he delivered his budget no. he sees america's workers and takers -- his words, not mine. that is his vision. obama's vision is a different kind of america, where we recognize achievements but also have a collective responsibility. that is different from the republican philosophy. >> why don't they just adopted the bulls-simpson plans can be done with that? -- bowles-simpson plan and just be done with that? >> they gave the report in december and what did he do? completely ignored it. at the time, state of the union address, in the budget. asked him. >> he is talking about it now. >> oh, yeah, now, after paul ryan delivered his plan -- >> come in, said the spider to the fly. paul ryan comes out with this draconian plan, and -- >> there are two ways to look at this, that he waited when he should of

we have the ryan budget up this week in the house. lays out our plan of how we'll address the fiscal challenges of our country. as you know, we have the debt limit vote coming in several weeks as well. what that vote is about, frankly, is dealing with the fiscal mismanagement of the past. but there is no way that we republicans are going to support increasing the debt limit without guaranteed steps being put in place to ensure that the spending doesn't get out of control again. >> chris: when you say "guaranteed steps," what does that mean? what are you going to need in return for increasing the debt limit? >> step back for a second and let's just think about a family. when they are engaging in their fiscal affairs and trying to manage their budget, when you hit the max on your credit card, and you don't know what to do, first of all you have to learn how you got there and not commit the mistake again. if you are going to get an increase in that limit, i think most people would say okay, let's make sure that we're doing everything we

is choice is not being doing ryan and doing nothing. the choice is doing ryan and something else. i think what he's done is drawn a divide. people who oppose his plan have to have proposals of their own or their not serious. >> one of president obama's responses to rising health care costs was health care reform, which according to the congressional budget offers decreases the budget over a decade. that was serious. paul ryan's response is to throw out the c.b.o. numbers -- chris: and get rid of the obama health care plan. before we breaks donald trump is making noise about running for president. as one can observe by the way he is his own number one fan. >> i'm a very smart guy. went to the best college, had good marks. chris: funny, he was making the same comments about himself and toying with running for president in the year 2000. all that bragging was made to order for "saturday night live." >> i want to officially declare my run for the presidency of the united states, and look, hey, don't try to fight it. all right? i'm going to get elected. you know why? because i'm a winn

paul ryan said this isn't a budget, this is a cause. you talk to democrats and they say what obama said this was the opening salvo in the 2012 presidential campaign. i think we're seeing the broader agents -- arguments we'll have in 2012. it's going to be about fiscal responsibility and health care. medicine care and our social safety net is probably going to be the biggest clash between the two parties and we're going to have another argument over tax cuts. the bush tax cuts and the president saying this week, i extended them once, i refuse to do it again and having republicans on capitol hill saying we're not raising taxes. >> both you and janet spent your week prowling the granite halls on capitol hill and one thing that john boehner, the speaker of the house said, said he's succeeded in shifting the debate into a debate about spending cuts, not about spending. is he right? >> the frame of the debate really has shifted in that direction, whether boehner is single-handedly responsible for it or he was carried by the political forces i

ryan? the point of the matter is is that you have two different visions of america's future, two different cities on that hill. you continue to use the payroll tax, which pays for medicare a and you continue to say you're going to and all those under 55 years of age are going to go to a new plan, yet you continue the payroll tax. this is somewhat like -- this is exactly like, not somewhat like, what you did with the doughnut hole. you allowed seniors and forced seniors to pay premiums and they got no benefits. you know it, i know it and the truth is what it is. the chair: the gentleman is reminded to address his remarks to the chair. mr. pascrell: sorry, mr. chairman. this misguided budget is a doubling down on the same failed policies that we know don't work and brought us to the brink. with our ranking member did not point out is that there was a loss of 653,000 jobs in those eight years. where there was in the previous eight years, a gain of 20.8 million jobs. you want to go back and use

benefits most from the ryan plan? >> america at. it prevents us from going off the cliff. it does tax reform. even obama supports it, but he will not propose a plan. it also recapitulates the 1996 a form of welfare, which clinton did, by applying the same new incentives to non- cash welfare. it attacks agricultural subsidies, it goes on everything. on the issue of revenues, yes, it does nothing on revenues, but at least opens a solution. all the country has to do is accept the spending side, which is all he approaches, and then to say let's have a grand bargain. you give us 2% extra in revenues and you know what you have? a completely balanced budget. >> i agree with that -- >> i joined the chorus of people who said good things about the ryan budget in it that at least it addresses the two major problems -- three major problems confronting us now, the entitlement problems -- >> not social security. >> he punts on social security the semi obama did, but they do -- same way obama did, but they do step up to medicare and

under the ryan budget, 68%. so there's this voucher and it goes to the insurance companies, health care costs more and seniors pay more. why the heck would we do that? this is a crippling burden that would drive the average medicare recipient into poverty. it is not oy to much to a for our seniors, it destroys the foundation of our health care system. madam prident, just to check on the time. i believe i said after i finished, i asked unanimous consent that congressman inhofe would follow me? the presiding officer: the senator has used 10 minutes did the senator wish for more than ten minutes? mr. humer: i did. and that was the intention of my unanimous consent request. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. schumer: thank you, madam president. i'll be finished in a little while and i thank my colleague from okloma. so the bottom line is the house republican budget would cause the cost of health insurance to rise and then would me seniors pay a greater share of that higher cost. it is a cut in benefits pl

ryan a chance to answer. that is how barnes begins his piece. as you saw yesterday the president making an unannounced visit to the lincoln memorial to showcase that washington is up and running. hard to follow a $3.8 trillion budget but the city gets security release is the story. honest abe is still open with a photograph of the president and greeting some tourists at the memorial. here is more of what he said yesterday afternoon. >> i just want to say real quick that because congress was able to handle its differences that is why this place is open and everybody can enjoy their visits. that is the kind of future cooperation i hope we have going forward. because this is what america is all about. everybody from different places enjig those things that bind us together. it is wonderful to spend time with you. hope you have a great time. >> the president at the lincoln memorial yesterday. he is in town this weekend. congress is back this week. two big budget items. voting on a budget for the rest of the fisca

paul ryan doesn't.'re in such a hold even making the major reform you don't want to affect people currently on medicare. you have grandfather them. you don't get the balance within the decade. jim jordon of the republican senate committee will unveil drastic, rapid reduction in rate of growth of medicare. i think it's the responsible way to cut government. we have a crisis. we're going bankrupt and paul ryan is trying to prevent us from doing that. i think it can be sold as policy and politics and we'll get it attacked from the right for being too slow and from president obama being too harsh. >> what you see on the republican side is the need, then, i think to sell it. not only to republicans but sell it to constituents. what ryan's solution is we're just going to grandfather in everybody who is over 55 i think he told you this morning. if this was a national emergency, don't we have to make a sacrifice, everybody in the country working together to cut back on entitlement? the one point that he is righ

wisconsin's republican congressman paul ryan is the architect of the republican plan. virginia democratic senator mark warner is part of a bipartisan group working on a different approach. we'll ask both if the two sides can find a way to get together. and can they find agreement to raise the debt ceiling and keep america from defaulting on its debt, a development that could set off a worldwide financial crisis and hit every americans' pocketbook? it's all ahead on "face the nation." captioning sponsored by cbs "face the nation" with cbs news chief washington correspondent bob schieffer. and now from washington, bob schieffer. >> schieffer: and good morning again. we begin with congressman ryan who is back home in the city of parks-- jamesville, wisconsin. congressman, thanks for joining us. here's a little news. treasury secretary tim geithner told "meet the press" this morning that republican leaders have privately told the president they will not stand in the way of raising the debt ceiling. that, of course, the debt ceiling... if you don't raise it, the government

under the ryan budget, 68%.is voucher and it goes to the insurance companies, health care costs more and seniors pay more. why the heck would we do that? this is a crippling burden that would drive the average medicare recipient into poverty. it is not only too much to ask for our seniors, it destroys the foundation of our health care system. madam president, just to check on the time. i believe i said after i finished, i asked unanimous consent that congressman inhofe would follow me? the presiding officer: the senator has used 10 minutes. did the senator wish for more than ten minutes? mr. schumer: i did. and that was the intention of my unanimous consent request. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. schumer: thank you, madam president. i'll be finished in a little while and i thank my colleague from oklahoma. so the bottom line is the house republican budget would cause the cost of health insurance to rise and then would make seniors pay a greater share of that higher cost. it is a cut in benefits pl

ryan: at this time, mr. chairman, i would like to yield two minutes to our distinguished chief deputy whip, mr. roskam from illinois. the chair: the gentleman is recognize -- recognized for two minutes. mr. roskam: thank you, mr. chairman, and i thank the gentleman for yielding. my colleague from connecticut talks about a guarantee. well, there's one guarantee that is for sure, mr. chairman. and that is the guarantee that medicare as we know it is a pipe dream into pert fought to. it's going broke -- perpetuity. it's going broke. the guarantee that the democratic house has brought us in the past is a guarantee that says 47% of our foreign debt obligation -- or our debt obligations are to foreigners. we are guaranteed right now to borrow 40 cents on every dollar unless we do something about it. so what do we do about it? there's famous themes in literature that fast forward into the future, you get a glimpse of the reality of the future and then we always love it when the hero comes back and says, oh, here's

well, from town to town we saw paul ryan get an earful from voters here. the powerful house budget committee chairman is fighting for his plan to reduce the country's debt. during this visit he's got 19 meetings. four of them just today. >> hey, everybody. >> reporter: he's the republican number cruncher. >> we put our budget on a path to not only balance but to pay off the debt. >> reporter: 41-year-old father of three paul ryan has represented wisconsin more than a dozen years. suddenly he's a lightning rod. >> paul ryan looks like a nice young man. >> reporter: targeted by liberal groups. >> ending medicare so millionaires can get another tax break? >> reporter: a laugh line on cable. >> we do tax the top. the top -- [ boos ]. >> that is paul ryan, the architect of the plan, being booed! >> reporter: today ryan claimed his critics don't get it. >> it's people who don't understand what we're doing with medicare. what i find is there's a lot of demagoguery and distortion occurring. >> reporter: armed with a powerpoint sales pitch, ryan is traveling his di

the ryan plan. >> paul ryan is eight years younger than the president but vastly more had experiencedonversant with these issues. the republicans are now bound with hoops of steel by this plan by ryan. they really can't avoid it. the president can't avoid engaging it. the president's initial response was that the democrats say this is extreme. this extreme plan by paul ryan envisions over the next decade a 34% increase in federal spending. it envisions adding trillions of dollars to the national debt. that's how slow the glide plan is that he proposes. furthermore, on medicare, medicare is doomed, as we know it. not by mr. ryan, but by mr. arithmetic. it just doesn't work anymore. and, therefore, when he proposes essentially what the bipartisan commission on medicare proposed more than a decade ago, premium support, which is no matter what mr. hollen said a moment ago, essentially what every federal worker has from the man to delivers your mail to harry reid who delivers stuff. >> but it's not what seniors have now. i mean that is the big change. it's important to under, you are corre

paul ryan is trying to move it in that direction. if he gets halfway that far, he'll probably accept that. >> it's dead on arrival in the senate. what democrats say is that the greatest leverage that medicare has to bring down prices overall is that it's so big and covers so many people. you take that money and send it all to the private sector, you basically give up any leverage the government has to bring. >> schieffer: thanks to both of you. one thing for sure, you'll both have plenty to do. >> no doubt. >> schieffer: i'll be back in a moment with some final thoughts. ♪ crossing borders with ease ♪ ♪ clearing customs' a breeze ♪ ♪ that's logistics ♪ ♪ a-di-os, cheerio, au revoir ♪ ♪ off it goes, that's logistics ♪ ♪ over seas, over land, on the web, on demand ♪ ♪ that's logistics ♪ ♪ operations worldwide, ups on your side ♪ ♪ that's logistics ♪ go to e-trade and tap into the power of revolutionary mobile apps to trade wherever, whenever. life isn't experienced sitting idly by. neither is investing. e-trade. investing unleashed. [

the ryan budget does that. it actually improves upon all of those areas of unsustainability that we're faced with. the numbers play out. and i'm very much in favor of it. again, we must save medicare. we have a spending problem in this country, not a revenue problem. >> all right. you raised revenue problem. let me ask you two, congressman walsh and southerland. the ryan budget does not talk about raising revenues. president obama's proposal does. eliminating tax cut on the wealthy. can you really sustain what everybody is calling for, just by cuts in public services? doesn't there need to be revenue raising mechanism? >> christiane, you raise revenue by growing the economy. everything this president has done the last two years has gone against that. you get taxes and regulations off the backs of businesses so that revenues can increase. >> i know, i know that that is your position. but there's so much evidence, even going back to ronald reagan, where he did tax cuts and in fact the debt increase then he had to

you need to know this there's a secret the paul ryan of the republicans who are arguing for even more tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires frankly don't want you to know about. it's a secret that every republican president since ronald reagan and even to a certain extent bill clinton didn't want us to know about and that secret is that supply side economics that we sometimes call trickle down economics or reaganomics doesn't work in fact it only works to do one thing create a massive wealth inequality this screws over ninety eight percent of us and rains down money on the other two percent we use that extra cash to speculate on wall street and crash our economy supply side economics has never ever worked anywhere it's ever been tried anywhere in the world it's never worked trickle down economics only produces a nation of it's yet here republicans are trying to pass a budget that will embrace an even more radical version of reaganomics further slashing the tax rates for america's oligarchy and leaving the rest of us to pick up the tab by dropping our health insurance taking food

ryan's plan.st: ryan has had to defend themselves both from liberal attacks and from some unease among conservatives. as i mentioned, the budget does not balance until 2014. a lot of people on the right are worried about that. jordan has announced he will unveil a budget resolution that would balance within 10 years. as the house majority leader eric cantor has made clear in public, doing so would most likely involve cutting current benefits to seniors, or making other really deep cuts in the 10-year window. rye and defended himself against these conservative charges by saying that this will whole is so deep and that is why i could not balance it by 2014 -- the fiscal hole is so deep and that is why i could not balance it by 2014. it does not specify what the solutions are. rye and yesterday acknowledge that it would be tempting for democrats to attack on that. and that seems to be the main reason. host: a lot to dig through on his 2012 budget plan. i want to read more. five boys and analysis, eri

ryan is sincere. but i think that what he and the other republicans in the house of representatives also want to do is change our social compact in a pretty fundamental way. >> woodruff: over the years, both parties have found it hard to make changes to medicare, including cutting payments to doctors. and, there are signs of broad opposition this time as well. a new "washington post"/abc news poll found 78% of americans oppose cutting spending on medicare to reduce the national debt. in the meantime, medicare's trustees have warned the day of reckoning is coming. if nothing is changed, the trust fund will run out of money by 2029. the house passed the ryan plan last week. it's not expected to pass the senate. but cutting medicare costs is a key part of the debate over deficits. we assess the two central ideas out there with gail wilensky, former director of the federal agency overseeing medicare during the first bush administration. she's a senior fellow at project hope, a foundation for health educat

congressman paul ryan told the newshour that the u.s. has to reimagine its social safety net to bring the budget in line. and u.n. and french diplomats worked to broker a deal for ivory coast's entrenched president to leave office. and to hari sreenivasan, for what's on the newshour online. hari? >> sreenivasan: margaret talked one-on-one with mark malloch- brown about his new book, "the unfinished global revolution." that's on the rundown blog. there's more from our politics beat on reaction to representative ryan's budget proposal. plus our science unit explains the difference between the materials in a nuclear reactor and those found in a nuclear bomb. all that and more is on our web site, newshour.pbs.org. >> woodruff: and that's the newshour for tonight. on wednesday, we'll look at the latest on the radiation levels in japan, and the task ahead for haiti's new president. i'm judy woodruff. >> brown: and i'm jeffrey brown. we'll see you online, and again here tomorrow evening. thank you, and good night. major funding for the pbs news

released his budget for two thousand and twelve today and ryan laid out his plan that he says would cut six point two trillion dollars in spending over the next ten years working spending below twenty percent of g.d.p. and reducing the deficit by four point four trillion dollars we've also got medicare and medicaid and leave defense spending pretty much on touched and revamp some tax cuts some people have called it political suicide others have said it's the most courageous political move they've ever seen so which one is it going to be to discuss it is a reporter and blogger a blogger for think progress dot org and the progress report the center for american progress and liz mair vice president of heinz communications and former communications director for the republican national committee guys thanks for joining me you really got to work on making those title a little shorter could available every time now. you know i did say has to be longer show. last week apparently we had this compromise apparently you know vice president joe biden said everything's good john boehner said we a

the tax disparities between social classes and add to that a recent video showing republican paul ryan being booed and it really makes you wonder when will washington get the hint that they're not representing the average american i'm president obama is currently campaigning in california and yesterday he made a stop at the facebook headquarters so is this an attempt to get the young both or just the money from silicon valley then people across the country are celebrating religious holidays this week whether it be passover or easter but today we'll tell you about another group holding a convention atheists and we'll speak to one of them and find out why they think they're the most take group in america and believe it or not some people are ok with the idea of torture a recent poll unveils which demographic thinks that it's acceptable to torture the enemy we'll have details on the poll and more importantly we want to know why some of these people think of these cruel actions aren't cause for concern that's later on in the show but now let's move on to our top story. yesterday we reporte

ryan: mr. chairman, at this time i'd like to yield one minute to the distinguished majority leader, mr. cantor. the chair: the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. cantor: i thank the chairman, and i want to thank the gentleman from wisconsin, mr. ryan, for his outstanding leadership and all the hard work he's shown in leading this effort to put together a budget for this house. i also want to commend the hard work of his members and the committee for bringing this forward. mr. chairman, the federal government is broke. we borrow nearly 40 cents of every dollar we spend. our debt is more than $14 trillion, and it's averaging yearly to trillion-dollar deficits. we simple -- simply cannot afford spending the money we don't have and we must simply bring down the debt. now, for years this house, including legislators on both sides of the aisle, has kicked the can down the road. americans were led to believe that we could spend hundreds of billions of dollars that we don't have and that there

paul ryan put it on the table. let's not talk about the next six months but ten years. if you make a political stand, make other over something really big and important not over this. but that's not the prevailing view right nown the republican caucus in the house. >> charlie: so tell me first about barack obama and how he's handling it and what the options are for the democrats. >> first i think gerry is right in the sense this is a different obama than we saw in the first two years but not a different obama than we saw crucially in the lame duck session. he tried to put himself apart from both meerts and above both parties saying he's the adult in the room the last man standing. the difference this is that deal he had the democrat base did not like renook the bush tax cuts but president obama could turn to the democrats and say there's more stimulus in here, a bunch of unemployment insurance and other goodies here. he's got nothing to turn to democrats and say is there any good in this. this is just more and more cuts to more and more programs that are valuable to dem

ryan: i yield myself 30 seconds. we have new data from the center for medicare and medicaid services on national health care expenditures. medicare costs grew by 7.9%. mr. garamendi: would the gentleman yield? mr. ryan: i do not yield. and competition does work. mr. garamendi: would the gentleman yield? mr. ryan: i do not. i yield two minutes to the the gentleman from wisconsin for two minutes. mr. duffy: as a pressure man in this house, it has been a unique to see one of the age-old tactics to take place, scaring seniors, but not to move the ball down the field but for political points. the gentleman was telling the american people that it's not broken and going to continue to work. these are c.b.o. charts. if you take a look at them, it's broken and we can't afford it. we have to reform this program to save it. and to deny that is trying to scare seniors for your own political gain. mr. garamendi: would the gentleman yield? mr. duffy: no, i won't. we have to be honest with the american people and say you know what?

ryan's plan? >> we're marking up the republican plan tomorrow. certainly the democratic alternative will be ready for floor debate a week from tomorrow. yeah. >> on medicare, chairman ryan is saying his plan is not necessarily a voucher program because the government would be negotiating with insurers and seniors have the option comparing it to the plans that members of congress have. but it sounds like you aren't seeing it that way. >> not at all. and whether you want to call it a voucher or whether he wants to call it a premium support program, it all comes down to the same thing the way he has it designed. which says that number one, seniors no longer will have the option of being in the medicare program that they're in today, the fee for service medicare program. they will be required to go into the private insurance market, number one. number two, the value of the voucher or premium support, whatever you want to call it, does not rise at the rate of health care inflation. and what the republican budget does is says to seniors, you're on your

, jessica ma and ryan ibrahim. there's somebody out there watching saying i have an idea. i've kept it secret all this time. how do i know it's a good idea? jessica? >> you don't always know it's a good idea. we honestly didn't think the company was a good idea. we talked to a bunch of people, they said it's a terrible idea. there's quickbooks out there and they're making a bunch of money. how are you going to take over this market? we didn't think it was a good idea, actually. >> we'll talk about your discouragement more in a minute. ryan, how does somebody know something is worth pursuing? >> like jessica said, you don't know up front that it's possible but you can feel an inkling if it's a good idea or not. if it's something you're passionate about and you can see yourself doing it in the long run, that's a good idea. you have to validate your idea. >> we'll get to that in suft a second. how do you validate it, prove that this is a good idea? your mom's going to tell you it's a good idea. >> sure. >> that doesn'

ryan. rather in cutting spending degrees, president proposes to take more of the hard-earned money of the american people and he would increase taxes on families and small businesses by $1.6 trillion. all of this is even more daunting arithmetic when you think about it. these numbers have a real effect on the lives of individuals, families, businesses. should the president's proposal be enacted, it would doom american families to doing what? a crushing tax burden? result in ever increasing interest rates. the president's refusal to lead in this situation threatens the american standard of living, the american dream and american status as a super power. i have so far focused what the president's plan will do but what is disturbing in this is what the president's budget does not do. it contains no significant reformses of social security, medicare or medicaid. annual spending on med kade is expected to rise to $2.6 trillion. it would eventually require what? putting the middle class in a 63%