they would say yes, we were in favor of gay marriage but don't want to force ryan anderson to violate his conscience and that is the common ground here at cpac. >> host: ryan anderson's book is called "truth overruled: the future of marriage and religious freedom". [inaudible conversations] >> good morning. welcome and good morning. i am on the faculty of political science department and research fellow at the piece for center. it is my great pleasure and honor to have this conversation with nisid hajari, the 2016 winner of the norwich colby military history award. what we are going to do today is have a conversation. you have read his bio, i am sure. you should look at the pamphlet that was handed out. he is a very famous journalist, helped set up time magazine, lives now in singapore and works for bloomberg bloomberg. and he has written this book called "midnight's furies". what we wanted to do today is unpack this book. i have intentionally not read the entire bio because i think it would be of more interest to the audience for us to have a conversation and put the book in perspect

. >> ryan anderson is the author of a book called "truth overruled: the future of marriage and religious freedom". what is the point of your book? >> this is the first book length response to the supreme court ruling on the same-sex marriage decision. i explain why the court got the ruling wrong as a matter of constitutional law and a matter of philosophy, the nature of what marriage is and why marriage happens and from there i go to say what americans should do to defend religious freedom, those who believe the truth about marriage aren't penalized by the government. >> host: how in your view did they get it wrong constitutionally? >> guest: the supreme court says the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment required states to redefine what marriage is but everyone in favor of marriage equality, we all want the law to treat all marriages equally. we disagreed about what type of relationship is a marital relationship and 5 unelected judges have no greater insight than you or i do for the nature of marriage, the constitution is on the silent on the issue of marriage so the people sho

ryan young is outside prince's home and joins us with the latest. what do we know, how did this all occur today? >> reporter: andersonon. the phone call came at 9:43 to 911. when they got here, they found prince unresponsive in an elevator on the property. from there they pronounced him dead after trying to perform cpr. people want to know what happened that led to prince being found unresponsive and want to know if anyone else was here. hundreds of people are gathering outside his house here. obviously so many people know about this area, paisley park. a place that so many people want to venture to because of the music produced here. you can see we almost can't get the camera to the fence, but they're lining all the way down the street. there's extra security here. on the other side, people seem like they're a part of the prince entourage, people cordoned it off so you can't go through the gate. people are arriving with flowers, young children telling stories. artists painting pictures of prince. you can feel the love for this artist. honestly, i was here over the summer, went inside this hallowed ground for music.

ryan young is outside prince's home and joins us with the latest. what do we know, how did this all occur today? >> reporter: andersonhat question. the phone call came at 9:43 to 911. when they got here, they found prince unresponsive in an elevator on the property. from there they pronounced him dead after trying to perform cpr. people want to know what happened that led to prince being found unresponsive and want to know if anyone else was here. hundreds of people are gathering outside his house here. obviously so many people know about this area, paisley park. a place that so many people want to venture to because of the music produced here. you can see we almost can't get the camera to the fence, but they're lining all the way down the street. there's extra security here. on the other side, people seem like they're a part of the prince entourage, people cordoned it off so you can't go through the gate. people are arriving with flowers, young children telling stories. artists painting pictures of prince. you can feel the love for this artist. honestly, i was here over the summer, went inside this hallowed ground f

ryan young is outside paisley park where crowds have been gathering. a lot of people we have been seeing all day. what's the mood like right now? >> reporter: huge crowds, andersone the music reflects the crowd. maybe get a higher vantage point see you can see it. so many different races are here talking about their memories of prince. i listened to people having a conversation about the singer, how certain songs touched them. there was an artist here painting several hours. we watched him put a picture together of prince, some people stood there, taking pictures of this. at one point, the family requested everyone not take pictures closer to the fence line. now those folks have gone inside, people pushed all the way to the front. they're placing flowers along the fence to make sure to point out this is a person they loved so very, very much. the police are here making sure no one tries to run in the gate. this is something that has been continuing. the singer was found inside an elevator here, 911 calls have come out, and people are trying to get a picture what happened. people asking the simple question, do you know any more information about what happened to

down at a big media event tonight at the town hall with our anderson cooper and he knows trump has been saying this is rigged against him. paul ryanif he gets to cleveland, he's going to do an honest job running the convention. he's going to count votes and it's going to be done transparentally. he does not want to be tainted by this. does it rule out if trump can't win on the first ballot and if people go looking for a white knight that his rain will come up again, of course not. he has such broad appeal across the republican party. but to everybody's point, he has a budget to pass. he's the highest ranking republican in the land right now. >> he has a day job. >> he has a day job and it's an important one. >> you know, gloria, john brings up an interesting point. what we've been hearing, the sound bite about how this whole thing is rigged. beyond paul ryan coming out and saying no thank you, how does he address the noise around this race? >> how does ryan? >> ryan, ryan. >> what he's trying to do and he's said in a bunch of interviews that he wants to be switzerland. he says he wants to be the place where people can go and be th

ryan young is outside paisley park where crowds have been gathering. a lot of people we have been seeing all day. what's the mood like right now? >> reporter: huge crowds, andersoner vantage point see you can see it. so many different races are here talking about their memories of prince. i listened to people having a conversation about the singer, how certain songs touched them. there was an artist here painting several hours. we watched him put a picture together of prince, some people stood there, taking pictures of this. at one point, the family requested everyone not take pictures closer to the fence line. now those folks have gone inside, people pushed all the way to the front. they're placing flowers along the fence to make sure to point out this is a person they loved so very, very much. the police are here making sure no one tries to run in the gate. this is something that has been continuing. the singer was found inside an elevator here, 911 calls have come out, and people are trying to get a picture what happened. people asking the simple question, do you know any more information about what happened to prince. they love him. they want to talk about w

. >> ryan anderson is the author of a book called "truth overruled: the future of marriage and religious freedom". what is the point of your book? >> this is the first book length response to the supreme court ruling on the same-sex marriage decision. i explain why the court got the ruling wrong as a matter of constitutional law and a matter of philosophy, the nature of what marriage is and why marriage happens and from there i go to say what americans should do to defend religious freedom, those who believe the truth about marriage aren't penalized by the government. >> host: how in your view did they get it wrong constitutionally? >> guest: the supreme court says the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment required states to redefine what marriage is but everyone in favor of marriage equality, we all want the law to treat all marriages equally. we disagreed about what type of relationship is a marital relationship and 5 unelected judges have no greater insight than you or i do for the nature of marriage, the constitution is on the silent on the issue of marriage so the people sho