>> yes. >> and you also talked to ryan balch about the fact when you get out into this crowd, keep your mouth shot. don't antagonize them. didn't ryan talk to you about that. >> we didn't talk about that. >> at this very moment, you're telling us you've lost trackover r -- track of ryan balch. >> a little bit ahead, but yes. >> let's continue the video. you have just walked off the screen heading east across sheridan road to the ultimate gas station, correct? >> yes. >> and at that point in time, you don't know where ryan balch is correct? >> when i stopped and looked around, yes. >> and inside of deciding to head back at this point, you go over to ultimate gas and you talk to some folks over there, fair. >> i walk over to the ultimate gas station, and i walk around and i try to see if i can find mr. balch. >> and you couldn't do that? >> no. >> so then you decided to approach the police line and cross back, correct? >> yes. >> because you decided your best course of action at that point would be to return to the same group that you'd been with, correct? >> yes. >> now, at that moment i

he knows that he's not supposed to go anywhere without ryan balch. he knows he's supposed to go back to 59th street. and he does. he tries. he walks up to the police line. he says, i work there, that's my business, which isn't true, but whatever. and they won't let him through. now, ryan balch makes it on through shortly thereafter. but the defendant gives up. he could go one block in either direction and make it back easily if he wants to, but he stops and decides, you know what, i'm going to stay here and maybe see what's going to happen. so then he talks to these people with fire extinguishers, and he's going to go down to 63rd street, and he asks one of them to come along. and they say no. now, at this point, he doesn't have ryan balch, he knows he's supposed to go back, he knows he's supposed to have a buddy, and yet he decides to go it alone. he decides to run down to 63rd street or walk down to 63rd street. doesn't know if that first group is still there, doesn't know if he's still needed, but he can't wait to take this opportunity to go down

for 26 seconds, corey i elijah has ryan balch here. ryan balch is lawyering there in the middle of the screen for at least 26 seconds, right? >> that's what it looks like on the screen. >> and your testimony is you were trying your best to find ryan balch at the ultimate gas station at this point because you needed him to protect you? >> i was liking for ryan balch but i didn't notice him as i was running -- not running away but towards. >> but for 26 seconds before you start running, he's standing there, isn't he? >> yes. when he's standing there before i run with the fire extinguisher, i'm over here on the phone with dominic black. >> how long was your phone call with dominic black? >> about 30 seconds. >> so before that, you had been looking for ryan balch? >> before that, i tried to get back to the car source lot number 1. >> and you had already been looking for ryan balch? >> looking -- yeah, seeing if i could see him in the crowd of people. >> because you wanted a partner, a buddy to protect you. >> to protect each other, yes. >>

he knows that he's not supposed to go anywhere without ryan balch. he knows he's supposed to go back to 59th street, and he does. he tries. he walks up to the police line. he says i work there. that's my business, which isn't true, but whatever. and they won't let him through. now, ryan balch makes it on through shortly thereafter. but the defendant gives up. he could go one block in either direction and make it back easily if he wants to, but he stops and decides you know what, i'm going to stay here, and maybe see what's going to happen. so then he talks to these people with fire extinguishers and he's going to go down to 63rd street, and he asks one of them to come along, and they say no. at this point, he doesn't have ryan balch, he knows he's supposed to go back, he knows he's supposed to have a buddy, yet he decides to go it alone, run down to 63rd street or walk down to 63rd street. doesn't even know if that other group is still there. doesn't even know if he's really needed but he can't wait to take this opportunity to go down and confront pe

ryan balch? ryan balch had never met kyle rittenhouse before the evening hours of the 25th. he has never spoken to him or known him after. yet the state wants you to believe he made up something about a threat to kill. why? what is in it for him? the threat. if i get either of you alone, i will kill you. that is a threat with a statement and a promise. and lo and behold, the chance presented itself to mr. rosenbaum. he attempted to execute it. i don't for a minute believe that he would have done it if it was mr. balch who is much bigger than my client, muscular, well-built. much more assertive and forceful. rosenbaum like any as he referred to him -- i don't know what he called him, a ragdoll or whoever. but the little guy who gets beat up likes to go after the next littlest guy. he saw kyle alone. that's what he chose to. or he could have been mistaken and thinking it was the other person that he went after and had to be held back. they were dressed very similarly. baseball caps, mask. the only difference is the difference between shorts and long pants. i can't answer that.

ryan balch had effects from it. i helped him flush his eyes out and had him drink some water. >> in the answer to the question before, you said something about being pepper-sprayed? >> i did. >> where did that happen? >> that happened at the car source right -- i believe it's the first time a big crowd of people were over there. i was pepper sprayed by somebody that was in the crowd. i don't know why but i was pepper-sprayed. >> did you do anything in retaliation? >> i did not. >> directing your attention to later in the evening, did there come an occasion where you had contact with mr. maginnis? >> there was. >> and before this evening, august 25th, 2020, had you ever met or spoke to mr. maginnis? >> i had not. >> you and mr. maginnis and mr. balch go someplace? >> yes. >> describe that. >> i get done with my interview with mr. maginnis, and i ask him -- i asked -- no. i don't ask him. i said, if you want to come with us, that's fine, to document and film me and ryan helping people. he said yeah, sure. he followed

he knows that he's not supposed to go anywhere without ryan balch.street and he does. he tries. hi walks up to the police line. he says i work there, that's my business, which isn't true. whatever and they won't let him throw. ryan balch makes it through shortly thereafter. the defendant gives up. he can go one block in either direction and make it back easily if he wants to but he decides he's going to stay here and see what happens. so when he talks to these people with fire extinguishers. he's going to 63rd street and he asks them to come along. they say no. at this point, he doesn't have ryan balch. he knows he's supposed to go back. he knows he's supposed to have a buddy but decides to go alone. he walks down to 63rd street. doesn't know if he's needed but he can't wait to take this opportunity to go down and confront people because he thinks he's some sort of cop, a junior cadet out there with the responsibility to fight crime. nobody asked him to do that. nobody gave him the right. nobody deputized him. ryan balch says the police told me the c

and the exchange with the later witness, ryan balch, when it said that there was basically hundreds of night and that everyone was going through the same levels of stress and chaos, having the same sort of verbal altercations, yet only one person shot someone that night, being rittenhouse, but of course, the defense will likely jump on a few of the things said today by witnesses to go into their own arguments about why they believe this was self-defense. >> omar jimenez, thank you so much. >>> coming up, an alarming report about what the covid virus can do to our bodies. sanjay gupta reports ahead. from the very first touch, pampers, the #1 pediatrician recommended brand, helps keep baby's skin drier and healthier. so every touch will protect like the first. pampers for people living with h-i-v, keep being you. and ask your doctor about biktarvy. biktarvy is a complete, one-pill, once-a-day treatment used for h-i-v in certain adults. it's not a cure, but with one small pill, biktarvy fights h-i-v to help you get to and stay undetectable. that's when the amount of virus is so low it can

. >> reporter: words never became action as ryan balch who was with rittenhouse that night. did you see mr. rosenbaum injured anyone that night? >> you had your pistol, did he ever touch that? >> no. >> did he ever touched uhyou? >> no. >> reporter: joining me now is omar jimenez. a jury was dismissed. after he made a joke of the shooting. it's unbelievable. what else are you learning here? >> yes, don, after attempting to make a joke earlier this week to a deputy about jacob blake that began with why did it take seven shots to shoot jacob blake and according to prosecutors ended with because they ran out of bullets. he was called into the courtroom and questioned by a judge. both sides and defense prosecution agreed the jurors should be dismissed. the public needs to be confidence that this is a fair trial. this leaves us with 19 jurors in total, 11 women and now 8 men and we are expecting for prosecutors to continue to call witnesses as we expect them to do through early next week. >> thank you very much. great reporting. i want to turn out to the trial of three white men

ryan balch says the police told me the crowd, we're going to push them down by you. you deal with them. the bearcats hand out water and say he's appreciated. as he crosses the police line, he's warned about throwing rocks. what message does he take? the wrong message. i have the gun, i'm going to confront these bad guys. i'm going to stick my nose in things. what does he do when he gets to 63rd street? what does he do? he grabs the gun and points it at the ziminskis, why? they're about to mess with some sort of fire? they're not threatening anybody's lives. he doesn't need to protect anyone or himself. he's pointing a gun because he thinks he needs to protect property. he says he wants to put out a fire. the first thing he does is put the fire extinguisher on the ground. his ar-15 is not going to put out a fire? why is he there? we agree, you can't use deadly force to protect someone else's property. you are here to decide whether or not his actions are legally justified. not to buy pathetic excuses that might be given to you. as a teacher when a student says to you,

ryan balch said, the police told me you're going to deal with them. they hand him bottles of water and tell him he's appreciated. as he crosses, the defendant is throwing rocks. what is the message the defendant takes from this? the wrong message. now i have power, i have the gun, i'm going to confront these bad guys. i'm going to stick my nose in things. so what does he do when he gets down to 63rd street? the first thing he does, we showed it to you at the very beginning, that drone video. he grabs that gun and points it at someone to protect property. points it at the zominskys, because why, they're about to mess with some sort of fire? they're not threatening anyone's lives. he doesn't need to protect anyone. he doesn't need to protect himself. he's pointing a gun because he thinks he needs to protect property. he says he wants to put out a fire, but the first thing he does is drop the fire extinguisher on the ground. his ar-15 isn't going to put out a fire. so why is he really there? and we all agree you can't use or threaten deadly force to prot

ryan balch says the police told me the crowds, we're going fo push them down by you. you're going to deal with them. the bear cats hand out water and tell him he's appreciated. they warn him about people throwing rocks. what is the message the defendant takes from all of this? the wrong message. oh, well, now i've got the power. i've got the gun. i'm going to go confront these bad guys. i'm going to stick my nose in things. so what does he do when he gets down to 63rd street, the first thing he does, we showed it to you at the very beginning, the drone video, grabs that gun and points it at someone to protect property. points it at the zaminsky's, why, because they're about to mess with a fire. they're not threatening anybody's lives. he doesn't need to protect anyone. he doesn't need to protect himself. he's pointing a gun because he thinks he needs to protect property. he wants to put out a fire but the first thing he does is drop the fire extinguisher on the ground. his ar-15 isn't going to put out a fire. why is he really there? with and we all agree you can't use

i wish he had never been separated from ryan balch, and we wouldn't be here. >> reporter: does he regret coming here to kenosha? >> i don't believe he does. i mean, you know, if he had to do it all over again and you said the same thing is going to happen and your life is going to be put in a living hell for a year and you're not going to know if you're going to be a free man, he would say, i wouldn't go. but we can't undo time. >> reporter: the president was just asked about the verdict, he said i stand by [ inaudible ]. your response? >> and i'm not laughing at president biden. what i'm laughing at is, a friend of mine who is a lawyer said, he goes, and him and i had done a big case together, seven, eight years ago, and he said, did you think this rittenhouse is going to be bigger than that case? i said, you know, i do. and he said, why do you say that? i said, i've never had a case and i don't think i ever will, where within two days or three days of one another the president and the presidential candidate comment on it and both of them had such different beliefs. president biden said