an investor in treehouse ryan carson is here. some haven't gotten a lot of love.top-of-the-line figure rounds of funding. why? >> some are cyclical good number in a phase where the enterprise company is big. we will go through a phase where health and education companies look at it. our prospective is to do all of these great investments now when no one is looking and when everyone is paying these crazy prices, we will probably be selling. >> treehouse, you claim you can teach anyone and they can get a job at a start up or make their own website. you're telling me i can get a job. >> believe it or not, yes. we're taking people who are no degree and experience of putting them in real jobs. they are making at least $45,000. they have no experience at all. >> you think this could be a real solution to a quality problem? >> yeah. he as addressing a fundamental need a people have which is they want to know that there is social mobility. even if you're born poor or uneducated aren't healthy, you can become healthy and be educated. you can get a job and you can thrive an

ryan carson here as well.dditionally, the online education market hasn't gotten a lot from the sea -- from vc's. right now, things are cyclical and they have been slow. we are in a phase where every consumer company was big. now every enterprise company is bid. now health care and education companies will get bid. the stool of these good investments now when nobody is looking. when everybody is paying these crazy prices, we will probably be selling. >> treehouse, you guys claim that you can teach anybody how to code and then can get a job at a startup, make your own apps, make your own website. you're telling me i can get a job at square. >> believe it or not, yes. we're taking people have no degree and no experience and putting them in real jobs. they are making at least 45 k. these are guys that have no computer science degree, no expense at all and it's actually working. and we do it for $25 a month. >> and using this could be a real solution to other inequalities. >> i think ryan is building a billion-doll

chuck todd who you just saw, carolyn ryan is back as well from "the new york times." also with us dr. ben carsonurosurgeon now retired from medicine who is making waves in republican politics to say the least. his new book is "one nation: what we can all do to save america's future." also here former democratic senator blanche lincoln. we've been talking about the midterm. what is going to define what this race comes down to? are we going to battle about health care, immigration, or is it really just about president obama? >> well, interestingly enough, it's about more than all of those things. as i have been traveling around the country, what i have discovered is that people recognize that this is a pivotal election. this one and the one in 2016 in terms of what kind of nation -- >> do we ever cover nations that aren't pivotal moments for our country? >> i think this is more pivotal. >> what is at stake? >> what is at stake is what kind of place is america going to be? are we truly an exceptional nation with a different core of values than the rest of the world? is that what led us to the pinna

chuck todd who you just saw, carolyn ryan is back as well from "the new york times." also with us dr. ben carsona neurosurgeon now retired from medicine who is making waves in republican politics to say the least. his new book is "one nation: what we can all do to save america's future." also here former democratic senator blanche lincoln. we've been talking about the midterm. what is going to define what this race comes down to? are we going to battle about health care, immigration, or is it really just about president obama? >> well, interestingly enough, it's about more than all of those things. as i have been traveling around the country, what i have discovered is that people recognize that this is a pivotal election. this one and the one in 2016 in terms of what kind of nation -- >> do we ever cover nations that aren't pivotal moments for our country? >> i think this is more pivotal. >> what is at stake? >> what is at stake is what kind of place is america going to be? are we truly an exceptional nation with a different core of values than the rest of the world? is that what led us to the p