." >> he had heard that there was going to be this ryan ferguson case on "dateline." watch it, just to see the lawyer. >> that "dateline" program from during a call from prison, avery told her to watch "dateline." >> he had heard that there was going to be this ryan ferguson case on "dateline." he told me to watch it, just to see the lawyer. >> that "dateline" program from august 2011, told the story of ryan ferguson, a young man sitting in prison for a murder he said he didn't commit. attorney kathleen zellner was determined to get him out. >> nothing's as riveting as this, when the trial's been lost, everything's been lost, and you've got something that's the ultimate challenge, i think. >> i said, that's the woman that's going to get steven out of prison. >> zellner specializes in wrongful conviction cases and says she's freed 18 defendants, including ryan ferguson. sandy contacted her and she joined the case not long after "making a murderer" came out. we caught up with zellner at the correctional institute when she paid a visit to avery in 2016. >> million dollar

we had rukich here, including ryan ferguson.e who voted for them in close elections or those who did not vote at all? that question was just answered with regard to the 2016 presidential election by the folks at the pugh research center. new data makes it clear, nonvoters handed trump the presidency. 30% americans who were eligible to vote decided not to. a higher percentage who voted for either trump or clinton. demographic groups who -- were to be a bigger part of the voter pool than non voters. among groups who preferred clinton, they were likely to be a bigger part of the nonvoting community. joining me now jill stein, dr. stein, did you and gary johnson elect donald trump? >> absolutely not. and in fact if you assume that my vote belong to hillary then you have to assume that gary johnson's vote belong to trump. if you put those two together, it delivers more support to trump than gary johnson delivers more to trump than my vote allegedly hurt clinton. the point i am making here is that voters deserve to actually vote for w

ryan. they didn't close expressways in ferguson. the ministers and the false prophets and everything that we have in this city unfortunately it comes down to one thing, it's black young man killing black young men and these two gentlemen talking about my father was murder by a gangbanger in 1969. a 15-year-old kid went into a store and shot him so he could pay for the gun that he used to kill him. i'm on both sides of the fence. i've been a victim of it and now -- i fought against it. you are -- you hit it with your opening monologue, just perfect. democrats are doing nothing and i don't care -- a nonpartisan person running for mayor, you get somebody like lightfoot or somebody like that that actually knows how the system works. >> laura: politics have to get out of it. real common sense solutions. we have to do an hour on this topic because there's so many elements of it. fantastic panel, i wish we had more time. coming up, ante far -- out of control. we will tell you the story others aren't. ♪ when i touch you like this ♪ it's so