we are joined by ryan hass of the brookings institution. he is a former national security council director of and mongolia during the obama administration and critically the china-centric director. welcome to the program. guest: thank you. host: if you could explain to us how do china's policies harm the u.s. economy? guest: as china's economy was rising, they decided to subsidize them so they would be cost competitive. many factories shifted for costs, purposes to china and to jobs with them and lead to this halloween out of manufacturing across the u.s. -- hallowing out of manufacturing across the u.s.. -- about to be invited click jobs back from china to u.s.. host: is attacked about truck policies and joe biden policies, let's talk about chinese steel and aluminum. what is the big deal with those two? guest: president biden announced he is considering raising trips on still and aluminum three times he did so in pittsburgh talking to united still were which is probably not it's -- united steelworkers which is probably not a coincidence.

we are joined by ryan hass of the brookings institution.e is a former national security council director of and mongolia during the obama administration and critically the china-centric director. welcome to the program. guest: thank you. host: if you could explain to us how do china's policies harm the u.s. economy? guest: as china's economy was rising, they decided to subsidize them so they would be cost competitive. many factories shifted for costs, purposes to china and to jobs with them and lead to this halloween out of manufacturing across the u.s. -- hallowing out of manufacturing across the u.s.. -- about to be invited click jobs back from china to u.s.. host: is attacked about truck policies and joe biden policies, let's talk about chinese steel and aluminum. what is the big deal with those two? guest: president biden announced he is considering raising trips on still and aluminum three times he did so in pittsburgh talking to united still were which is probably not it's -- united steelworkers which is probably not a coincidence. on