for more on the battle between meerkat and twitter's periscope, i spoke with product hunt's ryan hooverthey launched at product hunt. cory: so to me the launch of meerkat and twitter is on top of it not letting everyone gravitate to them, what do you make of that? ryan: it is interesting that many others are in this live streaming space at the same time. this happens frequently. it's not that twitter is copying them or vice versa. and it's just these, the change of behavior and technology is i think forcing people to look more at live streaming as an actual medium. cory: what are the inspirations? facetime or snapchat? ryan i believe it has created : this behavior of people being willing to share their face and themselves in public. and then there's of course technology, bandwidth, the screens are better on phones. everyone has this live streaming device in their pocket nowadays. cory: when i look at businesses and try to figure out -- you can have the best idea in the world. you're not going to win. ryan: right. cory: but when you look at businesses that are marketplaces versus when th