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jack drescher, psychiatrist who has written and edited many books and ryan kendall, who we just met inhe piece. he's studying political science at columbia university, hoping to be a lawyer one day to advocate on behalf of kids. ryan, you were in this therapy for years, correct? >> i was in the therapy for a period of a year to a year and a half, from about the age of 14, 14 1/2 to 16. >> and the doctor, he essentially -- what was he saying was the cause of you being gay? >> i know that he tends to blame the parents in his therapy saying that a distant mother or overbearing mother and distant father caused that. i didn't really engage on the issues of homosexuality with him because i just didn't buy what he was telling me, which was once again that being gay is -- there is something wrong with it, it can be fixed. >> this idea that he -- that this doctor knows the origins of homosexuality and that it lies in the parents, a distant father, that seems antiquated and without evidence. >> there is no evidence the people who practice these therapies tell the families their beliefs, nothing
jack drescher, psychiatrist who has written and edited many books and ryan kendall, who we just met inhe piece. he's studying political science at columbia university, hoping to be a lawyer one day to advocate on behalf of kids. ryan, you were in this therapy for years, correct? >> i was in the therapy for a period of a year to a year and a half, from about the age of 14, 14 1/2 to 16. >> and the doctor, he essentially -- what was he saying was the cause of you being gay? >> i...
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when ryan kendall was 13 his mother read his diary and discovered he was gay.ginning of the most painful years of his life. >> for years i thought god hated me because i was gay. >> ryan said his parents were determined to change him. they signed him up with repairable therapy. it's otherwise known as narth. repairive therapy, changed sexual orientation has been used for decades to turn potentially gay children straight. >> i know i'm gay like i'm short and half hispanic. it's part of my core fundamental identity. the comparative would be saying like sending me to tall camp. >> he said he was treated by dr. joseph nicolosi. as his office outside los angeles we asked nicolosi about treating ryan kendall about 14 years ago. >> i'm not familiar. >> his parents have provided bills. there have been checks to your office but no record. >> no. >> he says that your therapy was quite harmful. he said you told him to butch up, quote/unquote. >> never. that's not my lanch. >> you said, people like others are trying to g it the gay out of people? >> that's a bad way of say
when ryan kendall was 13 his mother read his diary and discovered he was gay.ginning of the most painful years of his life. >> for years i thought god hated me because i was gay. >> ryan said his parents were determined to change him. they signed him up with repairable therapy. it's otherwise known as narth. repairive therapy, changed sexual orientation has been used for decades to turn potentially gay children straight. >> i know i'm gay like i'm short and half hispanic. it's...
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. >> at his office outside los angeles we asked nikolosi if he remembered treating ryan kendall. >> i'mot familiar with him at all. >> his parents have provided bills. there have been checks written to your office, but no record. >> no. >> he said your therapy was quite harmless. he said you told him to butch up, quote/unquote. >> never. it's not our glaj. >> when somebody says people like yourself, others are trying to get the gay out of people. >> that's a terrible decision. >> nicolosi says he's kept hundreds of children from growing up gay. he credits this man, george reekers, a researchers who believes it can be prevented. rekers worked in the 1970s in a governmental program later called sissy boy syndrome to turn around kirk's so-call sissy behavior he was repeatedly asked to choose from traditional masculine toys like knives and guns or feminine toys like dolls in a play crib. if he chose the feminine items, his mother would be told to ignore him. his siblingings say his outgoing personality changed as a result of his personality. >> he had no idea,000 relate to people. >> george
. >> at his office outside los angeles we asked nikolosi if he remembered treating ryan kendall. >> i'mot familiar with him at all. >> his parents have provided bills. there have been checks written to your office, but no record. >> no. >> he said your therapy was quite harmless. he said you told him to butch up, quote/unquote. >> never. it's not our glaj. >> when somebody says people like yourself, others are trying to get the gay out of people....
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. >> reporter: at his office, outside los angeles, we asked if he remembered treating ryan kendall aboutyears earlier. >> i'm not familiar with the name at all. >> reporter: his parents have provided bills from your office, there have been checks written to your office. but no record? >> no. >> reporter: he says that your therapy was quite harmful. he said you told him to butch up, quote/unquote. >> that's not our language. >> reporter: when somebody says people like yourself, others are trying to get the gay out of people. >> that's a terrible way of phrasing it. i would rather say we're trying to bring out the heterosexuality in you. >> reporter: he says he's kept hundreds of children from growing up to be gay. he credits this man, george reekers, a researcher area big believer that homosexuality can be revented. he worked as a doctoral student. he treated a boy named kirk murphy. to turn around kirk's so-called sissy behavior, kirk was repeatedly asked to choose between traditionally masculine toys like plastic knives and guns or feminine ones like dolls and a play crib. if he chose t
. >> reporter: at his office, outside los angeles, we asked if he remembered treating ryan kendall aboutyears earlier. >> i'm not familiar with the name at all. >> reporter: his parents have provided bills from your office, there have been checks written to your office. but no record? >> no. >> reporter: he says that your therapy was quite harmful. he said you told him to butch up, quote/unquote. >> that's not our language. >> reporter: when somebody...
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major jay alban, captain ryan bopray, corporal brian kennedy and staff sergeant kendall waters bay.families and friends ba barely had time to register the beginning of the conflict before being forced to confront its awesome costs. eight years, seven months and 25 days later, army specialist david hickman was on patrol in baghdad. that's when his vehicle struck a roadside bomb. he became the last of nearly 4,500 american patriots to give their lives in iraq. a month after david's death, the days before the last american troops including david were scheduled to come home, i met with the hickman family at ft. bragg. right now, the hickmans are beginning a very difficult journey that so many of your families have traveled before. a journey that even more families will take in the months and years ahead. to the families here today, i repeat what i said to the hickmans. i cannot begin to fully understand your loss. as a father, i cannot begin to imagine what it's like to hear that knock on the door and learn that your worst fears have come true. but as commander in chief, i can tell you
major jay alban, captain ryan bopray, corporal brian kennedy and staff sergeant kendall waters bay.families and friends ba barely had time to register the beginning of the conflict before being forced to confront its awesome costs. eight years, seven months and 25 days later, army specialist david hickman was on patrol in baghdad. that's when his vehicle struck a roadside bomb. he became the last of nearly 4,500 american patriots to give their lives in iraq. a month after david's death, the...