. >>> we're joined by kate bennett from "the washingtonian" and ryan liza, the washington correspondent for "the new york yorker" and monica hise, thank you all for coming. monica, you wrote in "the washington post" today that kirsten gillibrand is somebody to watch in 2020. >> we did in our annual in and out list. you know, there are the obvious comparisons that he took over hillary's seats, she's a new york senator, but also in our minds hillary has been running for 12 years. i don't think it's too soon to talk about who might be running. gillibrand has had a breakout year. i think we'll be watching her not only in 2014, but 2015, 2016, 2017. >> and can kate bennett, who is your political star? >> i'm curious about chris christie still. he doesn't pertain to the party lines, and that's refreshing. you never know what he's going to say. he has a future, too, socially middle of the road, doesn't ant do what his party wants him to do. >> and he's not afraid to tell him that. we'll see if that plays in iowa. ryan, you have a fascinating person to look at. he's on my radar, i cover the sen