we talk to ryan luby that has the exclusive interview with an expert himself. >> we do, he absolutely deny the claim. we learn they are certified under the same international standards they have been for years. they are turning the tables on the d.a.'s office and they say this is a political tactic to get them out of the way of doing the rock solid work all over the country and world. >> we are pittsburgh. we will give the court all of the evidence. that's what we do in holland. >> richard eikelenboom and his wife, selma consult and on the casey anthony they worked on. but they never did collect evidence themselves. >> there is evidence that have been investigated. and with more conclusive >> the eikelenbooms say that others don't like how thorough they are because it threatens labs and they have a problem with how they say prosecutors pick and choose what they do and do not want to include in cases in an effort to get the case. i'm ryan luby, denver 7 investigat >>> and tony was the first to set down with the da that says he is not qualified to call himself an expert. richard eikelen

i'm ryan luby >> thank you for that. imagine painting your home and halfway to you are told to stop by the hla that approved it. that is what one lakewood family claims that happened and we went to the lakewood home to solve the problem. >> reporter: this is the place in lakewood. here is the original paint job but this is the new paint job. a bright green color pretty home owner said this color was approved by the neighborhood hoa now the neighbors are was a favorite to -- for emanuel, this job was a favor to his mother . >> it looks like the easter bunny through up. emanuel doesn't even like it -- neither does his mother they claim it was one of the few approved. the hoa up you -- they told me to stop whatever i was doing because it was month this home has been sitting half painted. emanuel said the hoa president told him the color that was approved did not look the same on the cost that he would cover -?the cost for new paint . >> tuesday came, never saw him -- there are too many things going on and too much slow movi

we talk to ryan luby that has the exclusive interview with an expert himself. >> we do, he absolutely deny the claim. we learn they are certified under the same international standards they have been for years. they are turning the tables on the d.a.'s office and they say this is a political tactic to get them out of the way of doing the rock solid work all over the country and world. >> we are pittsburgh. we will give the court all of the evidence. that's what we do in holland.