joining me now is "new york times" technology correspondent, ryan mack, who wrote about the facebookoday. thanks for joining us on this. we appreciate it. i got to say, this is astounding. they set up their own kind of dummy facebook profile and all their algorithms lead them these down these rabbit holes to conspiracy theories and urging this carol smith user to sign up for something like qanon. you specifically wrote about the efforts that facebook had in place to regulate things, leading up to the 2020 election. which, in fact, to a certain extent, they did quite well. it was after the 2020 election, it seemed, that things started to slip. >> it was a mix of things, and i think we got to understand that what happened on january 6th wasn't necessarily just because of facebook. but just kind of this environment that facebook contributed to with regards to something like qanon before the election or even after the election, fueling the formation of stop the steal groups. that study you mentioned, actually very interesting, it's from july 2019, it's called carol's journey to qanon and