if you want to demand that speaker ryan and majority leader mcconnell, please call or contact their officeryan and mcconnell is on the screen and all over website and twitter and social media the world. my next guest is joining me to talk about clinton collusion. gregg jarret. great to have you here. starting with the special counsel for dems only. >> yes tis it, it is embarrassing, really. it is it such a partis an parade and absurd charade really that all fairness and imparty is tossed out of the door and now a mantra, let's get trump. the law agains. and if anyone questioned the impartility of robert mueller. >> congress and the president were slow to react. are you kidding me, this guy can't serve. look at the statute. he can't serve if he has a personal relationship with someone involved in the case and that is james comey. they have a close long- term relationship as allies. >> remember i remember your column. it is it on its face. these conflicts. they are present and they are right there for all to see. why has there been no refraction the republican and not from the a ban or anyon

social security checks on time and see who benefits from that one politically. >> he thinks that ryan and mcconnelllose. that's the gamble. that's what his advisers are telling them. >> eugene, should ryan and mcconnell -- it just cracks me up. my brain fast enough. should they call his bluff as brett suggests? >> probably not because they will get hurt. they will. i mean, he'll get hurt too, but they'll get hurt. >> should everyone put aside their political prerogatives and try to do right by the policy and by the country? i mean, might that get the president's attention. fine, we'll go down, we'll go out, but we're not going to let you play these games. this seems like an abuse cycle. >> i think they should do what you say. they should pass -- they should pass funding bills. they should pass a debt ceiling increase. they should do what they have to do. and if he doesn't want to sign it, then fine. but they should do the peoples' business. i think that's what in their interest. >> what are the odds? game this out for me. you've now got the white house press secretary doing her best sort of seinfel

the base feels like paul ryan and mitch mcconnell are everything they fought against. that is what is wrong with washington. that's what's got them to this position in their life. and there is a calculation in the white house in the outer circle of advisers that the president president will whip this war, that his base will stick by him if he shuts down the government and doesn't get that wall funding his base will stick by him and they will blame ryan and mcconnell. it's a calculation but their 2020 is a lot further out than 2018 for a lot of the senators and houts members looking at that. >> shrinks have a word for this it's disnancy how odd that the president campaigning for you all deserve a tax cut and you're going to get it wants no ownership. he is saying to the hill let me know when you guys come up with a plan if we're lucky get one road show out of it but i want something to sign. >> there is a parallel also to his real estate contrary. for a long time he was develop and made stuch but in the recent decades i just put him a name on thing listening or franchis

if you want to demand that speaker ryan and majority leader mcconnell, please call or contact their office. ryan and mcconnell is on the screen and all over website and twitter and social media the world. my next guest is joining me to talk about clinton collusion. gregg jarret. great to have you here. starting with the special counsel for dems only. >> yes tis it, it is embarrassing, really. it is it such a partis an parade and absurd charade really that all fairness and imparty is tossed out of the door and now a mantra, let's get trump. the law agains. and if anyone questioned the impartility of robert mueller. >> congress and the president were slow to react. are you kidding me, this guy can't serve. look at the statute. he can't serve if he has a personal relationship with someone involved in the case and that is james comey. they have a close long- term relationship as allies. >> remember i remember your column. it is it on its face. these conflicts. they are present and they are right there for all to see. why has there been no refraction the republican and not from the a ban or any

we thank ryan mcconnell and the white house are all on board running to get a clean bill passed.uptick in volatility should be modest. youael: brian, quickly could have the fed starting balance sheet reduction at the same time. does that were you to have two competing elements? no.n: i'm not worried about the balance sheet reduction affect in the market. if you look at the fed's maturity schedule, they actually billionr 200 extra maturing securities this year then last year your they will be buying more this year than last year even though they started reducing the balance sheet. scarlet: does that mean nobody is worried about the balance sheet reduction. would not be reason to worry? you are right to play the contrarian here, but i think what is different than 2013 and the taper tantrum is so careful andn cautious explaining what they want to do. i think that has helped pave the way for a reduction in volatility. scarlet: first question to rachel, what will we be talking about in five years time, quantitative easing or quantitative exit? rachel: probably be back on that using si

mcconnell's insider expertise of the senate. they're going to -- he's going to need mitch to get him a budget, to get him a debt deal, and yet he has to attack these guys, ryanl especially. >> the week before he was attacking murkowski. he's -- you know, his people, his trump world has advertised against heller in a swing state in nevada. they are raising money in a primary against flake in a swing state of arizona. so at some point you begin to ask yourself, do you actually want a republican majority? or do you want to be able to say -- >> he only needs 34 to be kept from being removed in the impeachment trial to come. >> but they've also read nate silver's analysis where it essentially says 2018's the best year for republicans if you look at how the map is drawn and how these congressional seats sit. you know, even as unpopular as he is, there's still a chance that republicans could pick up seats. >> the map looked great for democrats in the senate last year. and you know what happened, they didn't do anything. the problem for trump is he may be right, that republicans should have delivered on this long-term promise but we've got a two-party system and tha

ryan. i have to say, it looks like right now bob mueller will run the hell over mitch mcconnell, speaker ryaniary committees are not doing a dample thindamnthing to rein th. >> we should not think of this as idea that somehow g.o.p. leadership is out of control or they would be run over. i'll take issue with that, i think they are doing nothing, they like the direction it going. like have you an -- >> commentary. >> you know senate agree to you need all senators to agree to have this pro-forma session to stop donald trump from doing an appointment in recess, that took all. lou: mitch mcconnell did that. >> you can -- every senator went along. lou: mitch mcconnell did that. i no one in white house is acknowledging this president is being subverted not only by the left, the deep state, but by g.o.p. establishment who works full time, for chamber of commerce and business of round table, they still tell donald trump to go to hell, and american people to go to hell. >> i want to remind people, the special counsel is based on premise of a false narrative, a russian fairytale collusion, you were fir

mitch mcconnell is allowed to hide on the sidelines, not say anything, zip his lip, let paul ryan take the heat. sorry, mitch mcconnell, you have been leader for a long time. you didn't have this ready to go like harry reid did. mcconnell has not gone to that level by any means. he is not the effective leader harry reid was. i'm ready for new leadership. >> i want to continue this conversation, ned said many things that were earth shattering, but one thing was where the president is right now is, no matter what, unsafe political ground. slamming folks -- >> a miracle that we have amanda comparing reid to mcconnell. >> wait, wait, wait -- >> it's more effective. i will take that any day of the week. that is the state of the republican party today. >> mitch mcconnell is not the leader to bring it out. here is the thing -- >> look at what's happened in the senate. is anyone afraid of president trump? >> here is the thing, the basis with trump, i would love to see him call ryan and mcconnell down and say primaries are about base elections. let me help you help yourselves. pass a couple ite

ryan, mcconnell, and the white house are on board wanting to get a clean bill passed. in volatility should be modest. michael: you could also have the said starting its balance sheet reduction at the same time. . does that worry youu that you have these two competing elements? brian: i'm not worried about the balance sheet reduction. it will be very minimal. 1 -- it has been well telegraphed. number 2 -- if you look at the schedule, they have over $200 billion of extra year.ty securities next they will be buying more bonds next year than this year even though they start reducing the balance sheet, so very little worried there. scarlet: doesn't that seem concerning that no one is worried about the balance sheet reduction? just from a contrarian point of your, wouldn't that be reason to worry? craig: i think that's a good point and you're right to play the contrarian here. what is different from say 2013 and the taper tantrum is that the fed over the last few months has been so careful and cautious in kind of explaining what they want to do. i think that has helped to pa

the hands of time take the ey have to responsibility for governing and getting it done and paul ryan mcconnell get that. >> let's conclude. what's september, october going to look like? terrible. if you don't like politics turn off your television. ll these questions about the shut downs in the budget are kind of, you really have to get details of the programs and what the fights are. a sing the debt limit is terrible vote because it means the credit card continues even they're spending more than we take in and we're never going to do anything about that. i think a lot of republicans would like to have that and the president doesn't want to have fight. democrats want to shut down government. why? because the politics works for them. they can say the mean old politics work for them to shut down the overnment and a lot of questions it's a super majority to get things done so will we come up with a budget agreement not. as a conservative i'm tired of hearing how we can't have this at this time or that fight at this time or this other fight time.is we're so careful not to fight that we never fight

and as for the shutdown, this speaks to a larger context, that's why he's going after paul ryan and mitch mcconnellwitter because he's preblaming them for all of these headaches that are about to hit in september as far as the government goes, but chris is right, we're seeing house speaker paul ryan distance himself from this threat saying no, we're not going to have a shutdown. we can have border security and still have the government functioning. >> by the way, this goes back to a point mark made, breaking news, republicans in congress were never going to authorize $10 billion for a border wall. >> i think the initial request is not the full 10 billion -- >> it's not, but they're not going -- this is a party, still primarily a fiscal, fiscal and deficit hawks. these are people who under obama were very careful to say, if we're going to do disaster relief funding, we need something on the other end to pay for it to offset the cost. suddenly we're going to build this wall. i guess he's building it as a down payment. well, we'll start it and then mexico will pay for it. paul ryan, mitch mcconnell, t

to vote on it before they left that's obviously not happening so we were talking about paul ryan image mcconnell stepping up and trying to come up with a cohesive plan but do you think that the conservatives in the house and in the senate will demand spending reform attached to it absolutely i do i really do i think people like ted cruz and rand paul are never going to vote for something it's just a clean bill and there you have two votes already in the senate you only need three to take it down so and i mean and then there are a lot of other republicans in the senate caucus who i'm sure feel the same way and same thing with the house i mean you have the freedom caucus who i'm assuming is probably going to be in a blog as well as additional republicans because the difference between this and health care is that lowering spending cutting spending is a pillar of the republican platform this is a myth they've been running on since the beginning of the republican party the modern day republican party so i think it would be a betrayal of their voters to vote for a clean bill so however they want to e

tonight we're organized a call to action if you will, if you want to demand this speaker ryan majority leader mcconnelln the special counsel persecution of our president, call contact our office, ryan and mcconnell's numbers on your screen, they will be all over web site, twitter, and social media and the world. my next guest, joining call for a second special counsel to investigate clinton collusion. joining me now, greg jarrett. gate to have you here. let's start with special counsel. this is for dems only. >> yeah it is. and now it is imbe imembarrassig such a partisan parade, an absurd charade, all fairness and impartiality has been topped out the door, now a mantra of let's get trump, the law be damned. if anybody ever questioned parialty of robert mueller now this should put it to rest. lou: how can he think he can get away with this. >> because congress and president were slow to react, i wrote a column the day after the mueller was appointed, i said are you kidding me. look at statute. said he shall not serve if he has a personal relationship with someone involved in the case, that is james com

i think that they can but what they have to do over this break is paul ryan and mitch mcconnell have to come together and hash out a plan and then they have to start talking to people in their own caucus they have to start talking the democrats as well i mean where do they go from here because this is the problem is that we can sit here and debate what they should or shouldn't do what they might not do but we have no after all it's at the end of the day it's up to them so we have no direction from them we have no guidance from them we have very little guidance from the white house we have something from steve but that's really about it i mean that's not a framework in which you can really move forward with anything substantive so i think it's possible but they really have to get their act together and i would actually pay attention to john kelly right now and see if he's able to get the white house in line with these able to sue advance the president's agenda in congress then i think very interesting we'll see if that kelly area is the new era for the white house connor brantley exec

the tax reform, for example, ryan had his plan for months. mcconnell has a similar sketch out. g to have to push tax reform and, of course, ryan and mcconnell have to martial the troops, and they didn't do that with health care. ashley: no. >> but ultimately, any administration the leadership comes from the president. you can't wait for congress. ashley: which begs the question, can the white house work with congress to get this done? because there's been -- the relationship, not great right now. >> well, you know, they either hang together or separately. because if the republicans enter the next year, which is an election year, with no major piece of legislation passed -- ashley: right. >> -- it will be a devastating indictment of them. now, there's still good things happening on the regulatory front and other areas. ashley: sure, sure. >> but you have to get something done that you promised the american people. and in this case, the economy is going to start puttering if tax reform -- sputtering. ashley: what does your gut tell you? are we going to get something through? we've

that mean the kind of end of days for what we make of the republican party. >> i think that ryan and mcconnell are pretty unpopular within president trump's base. and so trump surrogates recognize they can get some kind of positive reaction by threatening ryan and mcconnell. but the white house right now doesn't have anywhere near the kind of clout it would take to remove leaders that are viewed widely in the party as being effective. more than that donald trump needs them to get his agenda items through. there are only a few weeks left where it is realistic to get something big done. while it generates positive coverage from the outlets that are friendliest to president trump, it's not viewed as something that's helpful to the president's end game of getting tax reform, health care reform, the border wall, infrastructure, the things he said he wants to get done before the end of this legislative year. >> if that is his end game. >> the caveat is you've known each other several years, but when you talk to the speaker, does he feel targeted. if you talk to most folks, seems like he's got to gro

gregg: vote in tonight's poll, do you believe ryan and mitch mcconnell's de9 defiance of president trumprt republicans in the elections. >> follow lou on twitter @lou dobb, like show on facebook and instagram. gregg: right now texas braces for first major hurricane to hit united states in 12 year, hurricane harvey to become a category 3 before making landfall tomorrow night or early saturday morning. there you see it along central coast, forecaster say that storm packing winds 80 miles an hour could bring upwards of 20 inches of rain in a very short period of time to state. >> looking at wall street, stocks moving lower do youu dow down 29. and volume on big board 2.8 billion shares. sears closing 28 more kmart stores bringing total to 208 this year as sales continue to decline. amazon announcing they will reduce prices as many whole food goods beginning on monday sending competing grocery stocks tumbling a little bit. listen to lou's reports three time a day coast-to-coast on salem network. >> coming up next, public may soon have access to transcript from this week's closed-door hearing

. >> leader mcconnell, speaker ryan, leader pelosi and myself did a darn good thing without much thrust. no muss, no fuss. the same thing would happen when we deal with the issues of budget appropriations and funding the government next time and how debt ceiling plays into

ryan using aviation analagy saying they're getting ready to stick the landing. two different timelines from top two republican leaders. speaking of mcconnell, speaking of ryan, they drew twitter ire of president on entirely different topic. the president tweeted out following, and i quote, i requested that mitch m, paul r, tie the debt ceiling legislation into the popular va which just passed for easy approval. they didn't do it. now we have a big deal with dems holding them up as usual on debt ceiling approval. could have been, he said so easy. now, a mess. paul ryan though, painted a much different picture. >> this is about paying bills we already racked up, making sure we pay our debt the. we pay our debt notice this country, we'll continue do so. i'm not worried that will get done because it will get done. >> reporter: trish adding that the it needs to be out by end of september. president would be okay with the possibility of a government shut down if there is not money for his border wall. however many republicans in the recent days since he said that are trying to back away from the possibility, simply talk at this point of a possib

liz: trump tweeting this about mcconnell and ryan, i requested mitch mcconnell and paul ryan tie the debt ceiling legislation into the popular va bill for easy approval. they didn't do it. now we have big deal with democrats holding them up as usual on debt ceiling approval. it could be easy. now it is a mess. katrina, he is really frustrated right now. >> he is frustrated as he should be simply because, like i said, these are things that are essentially no-brainers, particularly for voters who elected these individual members of congress. and if that is the case, no one is really interested in getting this border wall down and going far to shut the government down to do so, maybe gop leadership could tell americans what they are interested in doing because it is definitely not fulfilling campaign promises and helping the president make america great again which you mentioned earlier, eight million obama voters voted for as well. david: katrina, looks like the border wall, what do you think of chances of that being built? >> i think the wall is going to get built. looks like there mi

he has been the guy sitting in meetings with speaker ryan, mcconnell, and the chairman of the house, chairman of the senate finance committee for months working on a tax cut and tax reform measure to pass through congress. president trump's agenda is in the hands of two people on capitol hill more than anybody else, speaker ryan and leader mcconnell and leader mcconnell showed him a very tough health care battle with only 52-48 in the senate, he came within one vote of getting it done and i think we may yet see it get done because if mitch mcconnell is one thing, it is relentless. >> heather: quickly, your response to the president and the controversy involving his statements involving charlottesville. >> what he said on monday night i wish he had said on saturday night. on saturday he had one good praise that he opened with about how this was an example of violence and racism and hatred but then he immediately set on both sides. this was not both sides. we had bad actors on the counter protesters but this was a group of protesters who are white supremacist, neo-nazis and kkk members

i really think you'll see paul ryan and mitch mcconnell try to work together to hash something out i think that will most likely have the white house's blessings i'm not quite sure how in the policy president trump in the administration will be so i think you'll see them after the break come up with something come up with a proposal because the fact of the matter is this has to come before tax reform and it has to come before health care you've been there the white house is saying that no votes will be allowed to take place i'm not sure where they derive the already but that's what they're saying you know and so health care gets done so but i mean this is so pressing that it has to be done and if they really think they're going to be able to present something and then have the unified caucus around the next day as they did with health care they might as well look at their past mistakes so the current debt limit is nineteen point eight trillion dollars that was set in march the congressional budget office as i mentioned when we were first bringing in this interview thinks we're going

how are speaker ryan and mcconnell reacting? >> the reaction to the government shutdown threat, pretty harshly saying that's not going to happen. in fact, paul ryan had a town hall yesterday where he told a crowd in wisconsin, he could acti the personal attacks, that's a little bit different. it's been a little muted right now. the white house saying they can work together and the staffs from the senate majority leader and the house majority leader are saying that they are in contact with the white house and can work with them. so we'll have to see how this strained relationship goes forward. >> edward, are republicans in congress going to move forward with their own agenda, not involving the border wall, then? >> yes, there's no appetite in congress whatsoever to fund a border wall from the leadership on either party, democrats. >> reporter: republicans. they're moving forward to deal with the debt ceiling limit on september 30th without funding the border wall. now, the white house has signaled they are interested or could hand

that reporting bolstered by trump himself on twitter this morning, he lashed out at mitch mcconnell and paul ryandebt ceiling and blamed mcconnell for the gop's failure to pass health care. trump has put his party on notice once again, this time he threatened to shut down the government if republicans don't help him find the money he needs to fulfill a big campaign promise, building that big, beautiful border wall, you remember the one mexico was going to pay for. >> the latest flashpoint between the president and republicans is this threat of shutting down the government. >> we have to close down our government, we're building that wall. >> the president ran on building the wall, won on building the wall, and has remained steadfastly committed to doing it. >> i don't think we should be thinking of stt

mcconnell. have seen donald trump throwing tweets at paul ryan, mitch mcconnell, the white house denied there wererouble there -- troubles there. how much do those tensions matter when you're trying to tackle tax reform? and with the deadline by year-end? >> it is extremely important. there was a great new york times piece about the tensions between senate majority leader mcconnell and donald trump. what we have now is a suicide pact between donald trump and the leaders of his own party. , paul ryan and mitch mcconnell understand that there is a core of republicans who see that trump can do no wrong. to showd those voters up in the midterms in order to hold congress. tois in trump's interests have republicans hold the house in particular because the democrats would surely move toward impeachment on the other what trump is doing is alienating 65% of the country including his own party leadership. instead of understanding this is a delicate situation, he has down. down -- double it doesn't make much sense. i can understand it in an election year when he would run as a populist, very much as he ran i

that reporting bolstered by trump himself on twitter this morning, he lashed out at mitch mcconnell and paul ryan over the debt ceiling and blamed mcconnell for the gop's failure to pass health care. trump has put his party on notice once again, this time he threatened to shut down the government if republicans don't help him find the money he needs to fulfill a big campaign promise, building that big, beautiful border wall, you remember the one mexico was going to pay for. >> the latest flashpoint between the president and republicans is this threat of shutting down the government. >> we have to close down our government, we're building that wall. >> the president ran on building the wall, won on building the wall, and has remained steadfastly committed to doing it. >> i don't think we should be thinking of shutting the government down as a tool for anything. >> you are seeing a president who's digging in ahead of a number of fall battles and really starting to wage a war with members of his own party. >> when he attacks these people, he is shooting himself in the foot. >> this is his signature

do think it's instructive to look at -- i think there's a difference between the way paul ryan and mitch mcconnellul ryan is much more dependant for his own survival in his job on the house freedom caucus, folks who go back home, and their voters in their districts are all rock solid in their support for donald trump. that's a little different political calculus in the senate. we have seen it play out when three members of his own party bucked him on health care in -- last month. so i think you see mitch mcconnell have a different set of political calculations to make. he's not just catering to the base of the party, he's got these republican elected officials who need more than just the base. >> it is interesting to see the president make the kind of remarks he did, kind of ranting last night for so long, and then to see him on prompter reading somebody else's remarks today. it makes the remarks today seem hollow, given that it certainly seemed like last night that is the real donald trump. >> well, precisely. you were right when you noted earlier that there seems to be this kind of raw nerve of

paul ryan and mitch mcconnell talked about a deficit neutral tax reform. ing that lowers rates and lemonade eliminates loopholes. aboutent trump has talked majorts -- paul ryan's pay for was the border adjustment tax. that creates a trillion dollar hole in their plan that they are still trying to figure out. we expected a plan by august. we have not seen it yet. david: i was struck by the anecdote that brian moynihan told at the beginning of that clip about bank of america electing to move its operations to dublin. that is an anecdote the president would want to hold up, making the argument that something has to be done with regard to repatriate profits from overseas. what of the stumbling blocks to doing that? >> there's a lively debate about what happens with repatriation. that occurred under the bush administration. there's a big question about whether that creates jobs or not. a repatriationg piece, that is probably very likely. the bigger question is what do you do with the deductions and loopholes, especially on the individual side. there is little ap

we thank ryan mcconnell and the white house are all on board running to get a clean bill passed.ian, quickly you could have the fed starting balance sheet reduction at the same time. does that were you to have two competing elements? brian: no. i'm not worried about the balance sheet reduction affect in the market. if you look at the fed's maturity schedule, they actually have over 200 billion extra maturing securities this year then last year your they will be buying more this year than last year even though they started reducing the balance sheet. scarlet: does that mean nobody is worried about the balance sheet reduction. would not be reason to worry? craig: i think you are right to play the contrarian here, but i think what is different than 2013 and the taper tantrum is the fed has been so careful and cautious explaining what they want to do. i think that has helped pave the way for a reduction in volatility. scarlet: first question to rachel, what will we be talking about in five years time, quantitative easing or quantitative exit? rachel: probably be back on that using si