ryan palmer, his third shot. ryan, 11 under par. well, all right. the flag all the way in the back right. this is going to be up. really, i think bobby's got to take even the first bunker out of play. trying to hit it past that. bobby: he's got a 190 to the bunker. i think the play is just short of that, david. david: efficient, but not what he was looking for. that should be just fine. that leaves steef steve -- steve stricker with a chance really to plunge in the dagger. although he doesn't look the type. one of the nicest men you'll find out here on the pga tour. and there's a lot of them. ian: david, you would think that if he can reach, he'll go for it. just try to knock it up there at the center of the green. it's worth a go. david: it is, as long as you don't go over the back. even that front bunker isn't so much of a problem, although if you ask lee janzen, he might tell you differently. snedeker now. this will be quite an up and down. hello. 17 under par. good up and down. tied for third. birdie at the last would be worth a lot. this has be