ryan smith, hln anchor. a guy who watches trials for a living.ns on the same day about will you or won't you testify, is your case done, to the defendant. is it unusual to you? >> it is a little bit unusual. because usually the defendant just answers. but i will say it's also a little bit unusual for her to be asking before the defense's case is completely over. so what that was doing is it was putting don west in an uncomfortable situation. he thought his client might have to say at that moment whether he was going to testify. what i heard from the judge, she's trying to get the timing down. she's trying to get a sense of whether or not he has made the decision. i think don west jumping in made her change a little bit. that led to that uncomfortable moment. ashleigh, you and i both know the defense already knows whether or not they're going to testify or not. they just don't want to say it just yet until that case is completely over in case any curve ball comes in that forces them to change strategy. >> and that is their province. come on, he's

attorneys mo ivory and jeff gold and ryan smith. nice to see you three here.ulpa is not exactly what you expect to hear from a juror. she clearly feels like she owes an apology to martin's family. does she? >> absolutely. and this is so hard for me because i -- i feel so -- i'm so emotional about the verdict. i don't apologize for that emotional connection at all. the legal side of me understands her conflict. but i also felt like she was very much bullied by b-37 in that deliberation. i do feel like she could have been that one vote that came -- you know, made it a hung jury which would have given the ability to retry george zimmerman. i feel like she caved. part of me is very upset with her. i think the apologies after are empty apologies. then i understand her to be a mother of eight and i feel very sympathetic towards her pain because i know that it is real. i know her apology to trayvon's parents is real. i'm angry with her for not being strong enough to go against the bullies, five others, especially b-37, where she could have been the deciding vote to r

i want to bring in ryan smith of hln "after dark."terms of the future potential legal ramifications that george zimmerman could still face? i want you to first explain for people who don't understand. we've already seen this work through the court of law there in sanford. when we talk about civil rights violations, this is what the naacp is calling on from the department of justice. what would that even mean? >> the claim is that george zimmerman violated trayvon martin's civil rights. essentially that he racially profiled trayvon martin and, therefore, has to face prosecution. because he shot, killed him. >> federal prosecution. >> yes. based on his race. the question is where does that go? the federal government, the president of justice originally had an investigation going into this mat r. they seemed to have more or less suspended it when the case took place in state court and they let that take its course. the question is where does it go from now? and then how do you prove that? especially in light of this verdict. also what ki

ryan smith, hln anchor working this trial. thank you for that. of course, one of the things i think people are wondering now that the jury has the trial, how long are they going to deliberate? is it going to be hours? is it going to be days? could it be going on more than a week? so let's bring in now richard gabriel. he is a jury consultant. and, you know, when you take a look at these high profile cases, you can certainly understand why it takes so -- so long. you know, it took jodi arias's jury, richard, about 15 hours to convict her in the first-degree murder of her ex-boyfriend, travis alexander. casey anthony's trial took jurors 10 hours, 40 minutes to acquit. conrad murder, nine hours to convict him in the involuntary manslaughter of michael jackson. scott peterson, jurors took a whopping seven days to convict him of two murders. jurors in the o.j. simpson murder trial took under four hours to acquit him in 1995. one thing of note, all of these juries had 12 members. there are just six in the george zimmerman trial. is this going to make a

all right, ryan smith, dig in here. that's troublesome. >> it is.tough situation for the prosecution. but there are a couple things to this. first, for the defense side, it does look like, hey, why didn't the prosecution offer tracy martin as a witness? oh, now we see. he didn't think it was his son's voice. tracy martin has since come out and said that was his son's voice. so will he be called as a defense witness, or will the prosecution try to bring him in in a rebuttal case? we'll have to see. >> would you if you were defending this case, ryan? would you bring tracy martin as a defense witness? >> i think -- i think you should. i think the defense probably might because they could say, let's just get to that part of the matter. let's get to the fact that when you originally talked to police, you didn't think it was your son. and people -- >> hold on, ryan. hold on, hold on, hold on. because one of the big arguments for the prosecution was just a second, detective serino. >> right. >> are you sure that this grieving father wasn't looking away say

ryan smith is saying this is helping the defense because he's very willing to speak, very willing tos back to the crime scene, seemingly compliant. do you agree? >> i do. and as ashleigh said before, i did not think they need to put him on. one this evening i was especially taken with is when he commented on the cross that the officer was wearing. >> someone on the other camp could say so sew what. he's standing there with police. i'm just saying there could be another side of this. >> there's probably three sides, the police side, george zimmerman's side and the truth. >> you're saying that was the real george zimmerman? >> i think there are parts of him that came out -- that show his humanity and that he did not -- he's not laughing about killing another human being. he takes this very seriously. he's worried about what god will do, even though he felt he acted in self-defense. he recognizes he took the life of another human being. so it shows a more human side to him. >> okay. thank you very much. we'll continue following the trial of course. i'm brooke baldwin. jake tapper and "t

. >> real quickly, i know ryan smith you're watching at the same time.know much from the discovery in this case about eloise dilligard? >> it seems like she's an after-the-fact witness. notice how she says she's not a friend of george zimmerman, he's just my neighbor. it suggests she doesn't have any bias here. what i'm seeing so far is she's describing his injuries. this is critical for his self-defense claim. george zimmerman's argument is i was in fear for my life. my perception was that i had to act in deadly force. so all these people coming up talking about his injuries helps to bolster that argument. she's not a doctor or an expert so expect the prosecution to pick on her and try to analyze what she saw and make the connection of, hey, that doesn't necessarily mean he was in fear for his life. >> we've seen george zimmerman in photographs before and after the fact. did we really need this neighbor to say that looked like george zimmerman with a broken nose? ryan, stand by for a moment. they're getting ready to get back at this testimony, deal with

right, ryan smith? >> yeah, why wait. they've got it in their heads now.thing to say, hey, you no he what, disregard that. it's coming in the back of your mind. you're saying, wait, this is a guy in the position of authority. he's the guy who works for the state. he's saying he's truthful. what does that do to the self-defense claim. for a lot of people it makes it say, wait, there's got to be some credence to that self-defense claim. i think that's a tough break for the prosecution. >> again, just a quick reminder to you as we're marinading over some of what happened during the day. there is a hearing going on trying to determine whether some of this evidence can be introduced, whether he was familiar with the stand your ground law. he told shawn hannity. based on his schooling, here's the judge reading through the legalese trying to find out what's okay while they're speaking about the jury, they're out of the room. quick break. when we come back we'll take you back to more testimony from the lead detective, detective serino. if this guy is going to be c

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