to take some batting practice from former white sox and cubs outfielder, ryan sweeney. there goes.it's kind of funny. my grandparents were huge cubs fans. so when i got drafted by the white sox, they were really happy for me. but they're like, i will cheer for you but i will not cheer for the white sox. how does that happen? throw a strike. that's stays is easy. just throw a strike. all right. strike. some people in chicago, man, they don't care about the season, they make sure we beat the cubs. when i'm managing the white sox, i say, ok we win the game, against the cubs, we have dinner in the restaurant. yeah, we beat the cubs! if we lose, mama had to cook in the house. was there a side that resonated more with you, and the type of person that you are? like, describe the two different fan bases. well i just think, like, south side you think gritty, you know. you think, like, coming out there-- they are going to play hardball. well, south side is a bunch of blue collars people. blue collar. hard working. hard working guys, you know. back in wrigley field, it's different. you almost

did say, okay, you love basketball and ryan's a good mate two other co-owners are ryan smith and ryan sweeneye ownership group and so it's a great bunch of guys. it's a really good group and she's like, okay, yeah, you're good friends. it's reasonable. okay when you say 1.6, is that million? i was like, we're going to have to change just a little bit. not million. so that was a little bit of an interesting part of the conversation oh, oh >> yeah, a guy willing to try bold steps in fact, atlassian's whole approach to customer engagement is different for the enterprise software industry. they don't spend a lot on a salesforce the conventional wisdom is that you have to ramp up sales. >> our first order that came in without anyone talking to the customer was american airlines it came in on the fax machine and you know, we kind of asked the three or four people we had, anyone talk to american airlines anyone e-mail them we had zero contact with this customer they had gone to our website downloaded the software. learned about its advantages themselves they had installed it, tried it, put in their