s. c e. alexandra look a shape which to represent moscow in the talks. the development has come as poland now holds the organizations rotating presidency. and as the host of the annual ministerial conference this year. earlier, the polish foreign ministry denied visas. 2 of the russian delegation, who aim to attend a separate o s. c e parliamentary assembly. next week, moscow has sent a request to all participating states to evaluate and consider what poland has done . we can discuss this further here on our team crossing live now to brussels based independent political analyst, gilbert dr. are joining us there. a very well welcome to use a very good evening as well. what's the, what's your take on, on poland banding, rushes foreign minister from a meeting of foreign ministers. well, let's go back to where the o s. c, e started, 975. as part of the pan european agreements coming from the helsinki final act. and it was to insure as a 2nd word in that title is a security, it was took to be inclusive and to resolve to be as institution, to resolve security