s in the new s.a.t. is now necessary to teach people thousand write essays because that now taken off this now becomes a new art. an art which would never have been new had it been retained instead of being a multiple choice alternative. >> right. let me make it clear again. i think particularly imagine stion a wonderful faculty. do you get it from reading. i fully support the continuing of books being read. but i guess i disagree and i would stress again that there is a faulty stereotype about the speed of decision making in the game world and this idea which was brought up before this idea that we're all moving towards these kind of instant snap judgments and this accelerated pace. in fact, the game-playing rhythm for many of these games is quite slow. the thinking process that you have to have is i think to think for 20 hours and think about what the consequences are in it this world 20 hours from now and what this will mean in this particular world. and i have to balance all of those things in my hea

new movement is sweeping the country it's a movement away from standardized testing test like the s.a.t.'s which most high school students are required to take notice some high school students feel that the test is unfair and refuse to take them even some teachers are on board and are refusing to administer the tests it's happening coast to coast campaigns against standardized testing to discuss what's behind it leon botstein president of bard college joins us now well. so why don't you agree with the principle of standardized testing. well the tests are very poor they're poor tests of their old fashioned they really date from the mid twentieth century the sound tests are coolly written they're not good predictors they masquerade as really cation of what you are they have no connection really with learning and with reasoning so i'm not against testing but these tests in my view are corrupt out of date and not and they're discriminatory i.e. is that is the word corrupt there can you explain away is that where because the biggest correlation and scores of test is your income and how well

well now the college board has announced they're going to make changes to the s.a.t.'s and that's the test that most high school students are required to take before they graduate but the reasoning behind changing the test is questionable it's not due to the demands for a change that protestors have been calling for college board president david coleman told the washington post that the new test focuses more on skills students need to succeed in college but he also said one reason for the make over is to make sure that the test stays relevant and that's because more students are taking another standardized test the a c. t. and it seems that the worry is that this other test could take away a chunk of the standardized test market so the reason for change is to remain marketable and profitable it seems many students feel like the s.a.t.'s are a game changer and that their futures depend on how they do on the test. still ahead here on our team too big to fail but not too big to take billions of dollars of your money now u.s. senator wants answers as to why the taxpayers a

the s.a.t. scores of the children going in. >> we have no measure going out. >> exactly. best university is one whose bulletin board should read we take kids with the lowest s.a.t. scores and they're making 1 $00,000 a year. so we're completely missing the right thing. so, what happens is kids don't want courses to be so hard. so the amount of time you spend in class or working on your studies has gone down over the last few decades. and universities have competed to have these very elite students, partly combepeted by nonrestaurants, and we're in that pattern that you have that paradox that if you want -- in college graduates, we're below 4% and new job creation will favor college graduates more in the future than in the past. so, you've got to get a higher percentage of the people through a strong four-year degree. but the costs are going up and the amount of money, state money is going down because it's going to health. federal money, assume the best cases it gets plateaued and it's going up a lot over the last decade and it won't be able to keep doing that. >> it does

my son randolph who is s.a.t.iversity in new york, we had a horrible debate on thursday because he wanted to cheer sont john's basketball team in hartford, connecticut. and i said, um-um. >> the meteorologist says no way. mom says, absolutely not? >> and? >> he was really furious with me. all his friend got sent back to did try to make that road trip. good evening, everybody. let's head on outside. what do you see, ann? a beautifully lit bay bridge. >> that's it. they are testing the lights at the bay bridge. they have been going on and off. we do have clear skies this evening, temperatures wise. we dipped all the way down to the upper 30s in liver more. currently 40 in santa rosa. we do have a starry night on tap. today's highs were substantial hi warmer than yesterday by a good 5 to 7 degrees. but still slightly below normal for this time of the year. mid-50s in pacifica, around the central play to 60 degrees at fairfield. back into rio vista and kordell ya. mid-50s in san jose, down from the average high typica

have to take algebra, you have to take the psat, -- they don't know it they are not ready, half of s.a.tth, a big part is algebra, mineority students or some folks in school that are not doing well, they are the ones that cannot get tutors or help, they will fall behind, this is not fair to them. liz: cilia, is the state of california doing a disservice to its students by not forcing them to take algebra, just do it. >> yes, absolutely, not just that, president obama always preaches about how he need be to competitive across the globe, in science and math. and by not requiring algebra, that is not that hard, it is not, we're not going to be competitive globally, we should be working toward even higher mathmaticcal levels like calculus and trig. >> you mentioned national standards allows this to happen, what were you referring to. >> the educators in california adhere to a new national standard that suggestions that it is that where there are problems with students learning algebra, where the success rates have been low it is acceptable to delay when they take it. i did not make up the st

we are a problem with our s.a.t.cores and we have been putting so much money in the educational system and nothing is happening. >> you want your kid to get into college and wearing a burr -- a burka is not going to help. >> that is more problematic than this. >> that is truement everybody should wear an astronaut outfit. i called it an outfit. >> those burkas will not get kids into college. wait, maybe. >> from burkas to jerkas, can you bill mom and dad if the parenting is bad? a homeless man is brooklyn is suing his parents for 200,000. he is claiming their lack of love lead to his penniless lot in life. bernard anderson says they were physically and emotionally abusive and it has caused wounds that cannot heal on their own. he suggests the brown stone which is a building in new york in case you don't know, a building made of brown stones, he wants him to sell it to purchase two cost effective franchises such as dom's pizza sh -- domino's pizza. and some parents are favoring one child over the other kids and 4 in 1

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graduation rates and schools that tend to attract different schools and students with higher gpas and lower s.a.tes and these students are less likely to graduate. >> if i was a prospective student and applying to one of the colleges, would i like to know how high the default rate is, right, and how high the graduation rate is. is this the kind of information made readily available to these prospective students. >> oh, until now it hasn't readily been available, but the observe ma administration released a college scorecard to help families make a trade-off between responsibility and college costs. >> now that information is going to be made available. >> i think so. the students need better quality and disclosures to make better informed decisions. they need financial literary skills and tools to be able to evaluate that information, but i believe college scorecard does a pretty good job of getting that information to a single page. >> we talk about student loans, okay, mark. inevitably people blame the banks. it's the bank's fault. okay. if you trace college tuition and the ease of credit comin

i think i got a two s.a.t. far off as possible. i don't think the tests are till, like, april. >> jimmy: are you thinking about college? >> yeah. >> jimmy: where? >> east coast like near new york, but not in new york. >> jimmy: fun. >> yeah. >> jimmy: we'd love to have you over here. >> i'd love to be here. >> jimmy: yeah. no l.a. or no sunny place. >> no. i really like l.a., but i feel like i'll save it for when i, like, have a mid-life crisis or something. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: you think l.a. is a good place if you have a mid-life crisis? >> yeah. [ light laughter ] >> jimmy: yeah. that's good thinking, i guess. yeah. >> you can avoid basically the outside world because you are just, like, house or car or in a building. >> jimmy: yeah. >> because you don't -- like, people there either drive or run, but they don't walk anywhere. they're not just, like, outside. >> jimmy: no. it's always people jogging or people driving by people jogging. >> right. >> jimmy: but that's true, yeah. i never even thought about th

one day the south will know that when these disinherented chirp of god s.a.t. down at lunch counters they were standing up for the best of the american dream and the best sacred values in our heritage. he had a remarkably stable balanced appeal. >> rose: what's interesting about that is that king had that. on the one hand the prophet and the vision and sense of history. on the other hand, he knew he had to deal with men mostly and women in order to make it happen. >> in order to make it happen. >> you can't go there on a dream. you have to go there on a dream fueled by action >> that's why i think you hear what i call a wood stove in his voice. there's passion in his voice apart from the words because he has this vision but he's no naive dreamer. he's had -- when he first got to montgomery he had to speak at a rally for somebody in montgomery who was executed for stealing $2.75. >> rose: executed? >> executed in the state of alabama. this was a rough world. people were not even noticed the divide between the races was very, very strong. it still is. just look a

canada has also put reading labs in public elementary schools in the zone and created an s.a.t.>> you have to round it up to this one. >> we get them in the pipeline. we seal it. once they get in, we don't let you out. you get out with a college degree. that's the point. >> canada has long argued that investing in the harlem children's zone would show a return, and now, for the first time, there's scientific data to prove it. >> he has done a remarkable job. >> dr. roland fryer is a professor in the economics department at harvard. he has conducted the first independent statistical study of geoffrey canada's efforts to close the racial achievement gap in his school. what is the racial achievement gap? >> black children in our schools are not performing at even close the rate as white children in our schools. the average black 17r-ol reads at the proficiency level of the average white 13-year-old, 4-year difference in effective reading skills. that's huge. >> but when dr. fryer analyzed four years' worth of promise academy test scores, he discovered something remarkable. >> at th

the inner city with a single parent, i went to school, i had a 3.7 gpa and really struggled with the s.a.tsuch a great student. something must be wrong with our educational system or i'm just not really getting the best education i thought. then it came back around with my kids, i have a 5-year-old daughter in kindergarten and we looked at the schools all around us, which school are we going to choose? so we picked up and moved. every family didn't have that opportunity to do that. my fight and my efforts now are for all the kids left behind who don't necessarily have the finances to move. shouldn't they get the same education as my daughter? >> some say why not focus on putting more money and more resources into public education in the schools that are in your own neighborhood? >> is more money really going to change the curriculum and what kids are learning? i'm not saying that there is one way is the right way, but we should have the choice. we choose our food, whether we want to have organic food or not, we choose our churches, we choose what car we drive, why can't we choose the educa

now, the pope made the announcement this morning to the s.a.t.o the vatican cardinals that he didn't have the strength to go on. there have been rumors of his ailing health and his brother said he was having a difficult time -- difficult time walking. just before his election in 2005, the pope hoped to retire and spend more time writing books. he's a highly regarded scholar in theology. he tried to retire from his post three times. once he wanted to work as an archivist for the library but pope john paul ii said no. some say this is poor timing. >> if i were him, i would have designed -- resigned after, let's say -- after easter. this is the most holy days of the catholic church. >> reporter: all popes except one other have died in office. one parishioners thought the decision was a courageous one. >> he's older and god bless him. he wanted to resign before. if he wants to resign now, it's because he needs it. >> reporter: the 85-year-old's last day will be february 28th as pope. the last time a pope resigned was when pope gregory xii stepped dow

. >> and we're just getting word if your kid lives if the northeast and is expecting to take the s.a.tust going to read off the states who have canceled the tests, connecticut, maine, new hampshire, rhode island, vermont and massachusetts. if your kid was expecting to take the act on saturday at any of those states, those tests have been canceled. we'll be back with a check of our top stories after this. mom always got good nutrition to taste great. she was a picky eater. well now i'm her dietitian and last year, she wasn't eating so well. so i recommended boost complete nutritional drink to help her get the nutrition she was missing. and now she drinks it every day. well, it tastes great! [ male announcer ] boost has 26 essential vitamins and minerals, including calcium and vitamin d to support strong bones, and 10 grams of protein to help maintain muscle. and our great taste is guaranteed or your money back. learn more at boost.com [ dietitian ] now, nothing keeps mom from doing what she loves... being my mom. >>> 47 minutes past the hour. time to check on our top stories. more on th

average s.a.t. scores 15 points off from what the actual data should be. so it's not a huge change.small and marginal thing. i think what will be interesting to see is this admission cycle whether or not you have more students applying to other -- fewer students applying to these questioned colleges. >> what's the pressure on these private institutions? looks like most are private, all of them. >> yeah. this is really the thing, you've had immense pressure on them to recruit students. you think about a place like clermont mckenna or emory or george washington, a lot of their money comes from tuition. any given year they have to fill their class. they need to bring the tuition revenue and one way to do that is to have a reputation as being a good destination for students. >> so moving forward, how reliable does this ranking system look? >> so we interviewed admissions officers and we asked whether or not you think other schools are cheating on the rankings report. and 91% of admission officers said they thought other schools are cheating. we had 1% of respondents admit they were chea

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why wasn't that idea around when i was taking the s.a.t.? number three, replace affirmative action. be a big one. why? >> you know what? schools should still say we are going to set aside a certain number of seats in our incoming class for kids who don't have test scores quite as high as the rest of our students. but don't make those kids based on race. the president's daughters don't need affirmative action and neither does a latino orthopedic surgeon need affirmative action for his kids. let's have those slots set aside for working class kids or kids whose parents don't have any jobs at all. that is what they will have in common. not their race. >> gretchen: okay. number 4, prick the b.a. bubble. i assume this has to do with your college degree, which is b.a., right? >> yeah. it's a meaningless piece of paper. >> gretchen: really? >> come on. >> gretchen: it cost people tons and tons of dough! >> yeah, i know. if you have an applicant come for a job, you know from your own experience you don't know that person can even write a complete sentence just because they have a b.a. you ha