s.c. gwynne: a nice combination of all of them, airships as it turns out were competing with airplanes in the early century, starting in the first decade. nobody really knew what was going to be the future of aviation back then. both of them crashed all of the time. the problem with airships as we will see as we talk today is that there was a fundamentally flawed idea that essentially 40 years to play out completely, the airplanes crashed all of the time in the early days and they were fundamentally sound that could be improved. part of what i am riding about is the two -- writing about, it is the focus of all of this effort to persuade people that airships were the way to go. >> a good time to explain the difference between a hot air balloon, a blimp, or a hot air n airship? s.c. gwynne: yes, go back to the 18th century when balloons were invented, they did an astonishing thing, they went up and nothing else would go up. it would go wherever the wind wanted it to go. that is a problem. in

s.c. gwynne: airships as i said were fundamentally flawed, we can see that. they were not readily apparent it was true then. they were vulnerable to wind. r101 our poster ship, the ship that is taken off for this, the trip to india who never made it. i'm not giving anything away, it was flawed. it had 6 acres of surface area on it. if you have ever been in a small syllable in a significant wind, you know what wind can do. imagine a 6 acres hitting wind. this becomes a problem. you are extremely vulnerable to the elements of the storms and updrafts and the weather of all sorts of things. one of the problems is, let a storm comes out we were up there in the storms in the airship? you are getting buffeted all of those reasons i just said you cannot go down. you cannot go down because something that big in a storm on the ground gets beaten to pieces. you cannot control it or stop the wind. it must stay up to avoid getting smashed to pieces. this introduces this wild concept where at least theo

s.c. over here will come and beat you up or something something. anyone. please yeah. please don't be shy. no, not that. okay. i'm curious about how you, as someone from, say, yankee in the north, how did you become so interested and passionate about this topic? okay. i'll try to be briefer than i've been. well, look, i. i've written a lot of history. i. two ways to answer. one, this fold naturally out of what i've been writing about in a bunch of books nearly all my books about american history of one way or another. don't with aspects of sometimes the politics slavery as it affected the founding or the creation of. the national government. the book about congress during the civil war deals in large part with how congress was dealing with with the problem of slavery. and so forth. i will say also in a more personal way, when i was a lot, i did a civil rights work in the south. i had some encounters with the klan of the of the 1960s. there were three clans, by the way, not connected? i a lot of time gaps between them. so i had my own my own my own experience from years

s.c. over here will come and beat you up or something something. anyone. please yeah. please don't be shy. no, not that. okay. i'm curious about how you, as someone from, say, yankee in the north, how did you become so interested and passionate about this topic? okay. i'll try to be briefer than i've been. well, look, i. i've written a lot of history. i. two ways to answer. one, this fold naturally out of what i've been writing about in a bunch of books nearly all my books about american history of one way or another. don't with aspects of sometimes the politics slavery as it affected the founding or the creation of. the national government. the book about congress during the civil war deals in large part with how congress was dealing with with the problem of slavery. and so forth. i will say also in a more personal way, when i was a lot, i did a civil rights work in the south. i had some encounters with the klan of the of the 1960s. there were three clans, by the way, not connected? i a lot of time gaps between them. so i had my own my own my own experience from years

host: s.c. gwynne has been our guest for the past two hours on phonte elijah holly is an award winning journalist and author of an american the shakers and nation. they created. his writing has appeared in the atlantic, the guardian, new republic, the washington post, l.a. times and elsewhere. he lives in los angeles. please join here and giving him a huge round of applause while he comes out and and then talks about his book. thanks, ali. thanks for coming out of retirement for this event. and thank you things are coming out of retirement thank you for being here and having me i moved here a year ago which is the first chapter and the part that i wrote for this book the scene that sets the stage for the rest of the book. i'm going to read a short excerpt from that and that i'm going to talk about the book itself, the themes behindoo the book and how i came to write and why i wanted to write it. then i will read another short excerpt, i promise they're very short. and then we will have audience

i know this is the s.c.'re getting to not have a false sense of secuty. >> you know, when i read it, it looked like the reason they did it is we want more timely notification for the investor community. we have lots of notifications to the cybersecurity infrastructure and security agency, where we have to report to them. we have ftc roles, different state privacy rules. when you look at all of the ways if you suffer a breach you may have to disclose, this is yet another one. and you still have to do it. and it's for a different audience, the investor. i thin they did these rules to standardize what is reported as well as get more timeliness in any of the disclosures. so the content of our disclosures will also be more similar in the future. >> are they right, the critics, in suggesting it's going to leave them open to lawsuits, that there's going to be plaintiffs' attorneys that are trolling looking for lawsuits to throw their direction? >> there's no doubt, you know, when you're breached and you know it, an

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