also joining us from new york, s.e. cupp, the host of cnn's "s.e.ich premieres on cnn this saturday night at 6:00 p.m. eastern. ryan, first to you. give us your reaction to this news that the president announcing on twitter that pompeo is not going next week to north korea. >> well, it's part of this sort of erratic pattern of decisions with respect to north korea. i mean, there are two notable things in that series of tweets. one is he's mostly blaming this on china, right? he made some reference to this in the interview with fox news this week. he believes that china is no longer putting enough pressure on north korea to act the way we want north korea to act. and he blames essentially the trade war that he started with china for their alleged retreat here. the second thing is he continues to have these kind of odd, very warm and respectful comments for chairman kim. he ends the series of tweets with sort of a, you know, don't worry, chairman kim, i still like you. >> warmest regards and respect to chairman kim. i look forward to seeing him soon.

. >> joining me now is s.e. cupp, a cnn political commentator and host of hln's "s.e.ed." many call those remarks blatantly racist. anthony scaramucci, the former white house communications director, called them un-american. you saw laura ingraham sort of forcefully try to walk that back in saying this was not about race, but you wrote an op-ed about this. what's your take on all of this? >> look, when everyone hears it the same way, the problem isn't we're distorting it. the problem is we heard you perfectly the first time. she was not ambiguous about the point she was trying to make. she made it in three, four different ways. finally she explicitly said that america's unrecognizable today because of both legal and illegal immigration. there's nothing to distort there. so when white supremacists get your meaning, when david duke gets your meaning, and indeed when, you know, critics get your meaning, i think she said it exactly how she wanted to the first time. >> and s.e., when laura ingraham comes out and says the second time that she disavows white nationalism, disa

thank you. >> s.e., you know the mccain family. how are they doing and going through this process of what their father meant, what their husband meant, where are they? >> well, it's, as you can imagine, been a really long and trying year. what people may or may not understand about this particular disease is that there are great days, and then bad days. and you sort of never know where it's going to turn. and so, if you can imagine the emotional roller coaster that this family has been through over the past year having great days, a great week, at times sending nurses away. and then to have it turn in an instant. the back and forth, the ups and downs have been so brutal psychologically and emotionally on meghan and her mom and her whole family. but on the flip side, the gift of time that they all had to anticipate this and prepare meant they all got to spend a lot of time together. meghan spent a lot of time out in the desert with her dad in the peace and quiet of the arizona desert, reflecting on his life and his legacy, and their

he has this incredible wife, like s.e. was saying.ook at the things that cindy has accomplished in her life and her work on human trafficking and her work on eliminating land mines, and he loved to talk about what they were doing. he loved to elevate what they were doing. obviously both jack and jimmy and their military service, he was very private about that, but it was something he could not have been prouder of. meghan has accomplished so much. i remember her still as one of the blogettes on the presidential campaign. she's done so much in the media since then and so much personally. the family is always focused on giving back. you see that, the concept of service and giving back to the country and serving something greater than themselves. yes, while john mccain personified that, he clearly taught his children that, and i have complete faith we're going to continue to see this in the years to come. >> can i just add, in addition to all of meghan's incredible personal accomplishments, he was so proud to hand her off to her husband-

. >> and s.e., if we would have all known about stormy daniels and karen mcdougal two week before the election, do you think that that would have made a difference? >> it is hard to say because we know about it now, but that is after a year plus of trump and trump surrogates sort of bashes us over on the head with these stories of fake news and witch hunts and so it is all -- i don't want to say it is normalized, none of this is normal, but it is all part of this big noise pattern that wasn't there quite yet in the months leading up to the election.

but the reality is that just doesn't happen with this kind of cancer. >> let me bring s.e. into this. as you're watching this, all of us who, of course, knew senator mccain, know his family, it's a time for some emotions to arise. >> yeah, what's important about -- what's important to know about this disease is, as you mentioned, i think as jeff zeleny mentioned, the deterioration was rapid. it had been coming for a year, but the nature of this disease was that he had great days. great weeks, in fact. and then followed by bad days. and it was such an emotional roller coaster. a psychological roller coaster dealing with this illness. and as you all know, a guy who will not quit. so this was long coming. that was a gift in some ways because the family had the gift of time to sit down with the senator and reflect on his legacy. and his life and that was incredible. but in the end, how do you prepare for this? i am sure as much time as they have had, it's still incredibly emotional. >> and we think of mccain and the family. we think of service. you see cindy mccain there next t

he was a fighter in every different field, venue there was s.e. and i wonder -- >> i'm sorry chris. >> i want to bring s.e. on. you don't have people like that in politics. setting aside the completely unique service he had by political standards. coming into office he achieved something and sacrificed in a way you almost never see. but the genuineness and authenticity of what he was, like him or not, i hope the family knows what a unique place he holds. >> i think they do. the moment that has been widely circulated from the minnesota town hall that david axlerod remembers well, where senator mccain told a supporter, he's a decent man, i just disagree with him. there's a moment that isn't getting as much attention but should. where a supporter got up and said i'm scared of a barack obama presidency, i'm scared of that. senator mccain said you don't have to be scared. we just disagree. don't be scared if he becomes president. if you think of the current climate that preys on fear, president trump does it, republicans do it, democrats do it, certain

joining us, s.e. cupp, the host of the new show "s.e. cupp unfiltered." president trump ran as the "drain the swamp" president. why does it seem the swamp is so swampy? >> well, you are the company that you keep in many cases. many of these people were drawn to president trump and it was a risk to come out early as a congressional member and support trump, and they did. and i don't think it's a coincidence that you're starting to see some of these scandals finally come to light. duncan hunter has been investigated for going on two years now. this didn't just happen overnight. by the way, it has nothing to do with the deep state. the attorney general investigating duncan hunter is a trump appointee. but, you know, you have to wonder what democrats are going to do with all of this. if you remember back in 2006. painting republicans as having a culture of corruption, it was very successful. will they do that now? or will they decide, they don't always want to run on policy. we still want to run on health care and an agenda. this kind of stuff is too good to

s.e., first, how are you holding up? >> it's been a long year. mostly for my friend, and she's been so strong through all of this, but it's really -- it's been a lot, and i just hope that there's some after grieving some peace for the family. >> no doubt. her is what meghan mccain wrote after her father's passing. "he was a great fire who burned bright and we lived in his light and warmth for so very long. we know that his flame lives on in each of us. the days and years to come will not be the same without my dad, but they will be good days filled with life and love because of the example he lived for us." s.e., how close were they? >> to call them close is to misuse the word. you know, they were incredibly close. when i would spend time with her, she would get multiple calls a day from him, you know, obviously over the past year, she spent a lot more time at home, but considering how busy both of these two people were, they made time for each other every day. he was her touchstone. she was his rock. i mean, they were as close a father and daugh

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a final thought, s.e. >> well, i think in addition to all of the optimism, the tales of heroism, there is a fear underlying all of this that we'll never have another john mccain. and in so many ways, we won't because he is, you know, irreplaceable. but you just wonder if someone of his spirit of honor and dignity and decency and bipartisanship will come along. we hope, but it's uncertain. >> i know you're going to have a special hour tomorrow night on your program here on cnn, 6:00 p.m. eastern, on john mccain. we'll look forward to that. as this honor continues for the late u.s. senator, we just want to alert our viewers, we're going to take a quick break. when we come back, our fredricka whitfield is in detroit. she'll pick up our special coverage of the funeral of the queen of soul, aretha franklin. . 'cause that's no so-so family. that's your family. which is why you didn't grab just any cheese. you picked up new kraft expertly paired mozzarella and parmesan for pizzahyeah! kraft. family greatly. >>> hello, everyone. i'm fredricka whitfield. we're in detroit, and we are outside the

eruption from the president and especially the giuliani statement it's just first amendment is a real non-s.e. s r sequitur. it's just speed. how would you take it, et cetera. it's right flat out in front of us. i don't think it takes much of a strong inference to say trump is trying to issue an order here. the point you make is good, sessions is recused to either a bizarre order to try to carry out. >> rod rosenstein, leads you to wonder, does he understand that. the other piece you didn't hear from russia today, not only did russia attack and interfere in the u.s. elections in 2016, they are still doing so into the midterms this november. so asha, even if this wasn't an order, why would this president -- why would the white house want this whole investigation to be shut down because of russia currently? >> that's the question. once again, these are going -- mueller is equally going after russians as much as links potentially between the campaign. if the president was being sincere when he stood -- walked back his walk. i can't remember where we are in the walk backs to the walk back, he bel

animating for democrats as well, we'll know in one week when they campaign hard for these midterms, s.e're at the tail end of this week remembering john mccain, the memorial service at the capital will be today. then sunday at annapolis. you're close friends with meghan mccain, his daughter, i wonder what you think of this moment as we move toward these memorial services. >> it's been an incredible week followed by a very long and difficult year for the family. we have the honor after watching these ceremonies, remembering john mccain, all the moments from the campaign trail and from his colorful and rich life. honoring arizona, the place he loved and chose to call home and reflecting on his importance in politics. for the family, though, this is deeply emotional, of course, and though they have had a year to prepare for what looks to be inevitable, as you i'm sure have seen from the coverage of these events, there is never enough time. so i know my friend is grieving. my friend was not ready. my friend was incredibly, incredibly close to her father and so in addition to all of the emot

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earlier, i spoke to s.e.blicans. >> you are the company you keep in many cases. look, i don't think there's any convince dense th coincidence that a lot of these people were drawn to trump. and they did. and i don't think it's a convince dense that you're starting to see some of these scandals finally come to light. duncan hunter has been investigated for going on two years now. this didn't just happen overnight. it has nothing to do with the deep state. the attorney general investigating hunter is a trump appointee. but you know, you have to wonder what democrats are going to do with all of this. if you remember back in 2006, painting republicans as having a cultural of corruption, it was very successful. will they do that now or decide no, no, we still want the run on policy. we want to run on health care and an agenda. this stuff is too good to pass up. >> the premier of her show is next right here on cnn. i'll see you one hour from now live in the cnn news room. don't go anywhere. ♪ let your perfect drive

i don't think it was built by s.e blair' he was part of andrew jackson's kitchen cabinet.ntgomery blair was postmaster general in the lincoln administration. it stays in the blair family. from time to time during world war ii, it was used -- it was given to the white house to use because every the post head of state in europe was coming to live in washington. eventually, the white house purchased it. the general services administration purchased it. they have expanded it so much, it is 120 rooms are something. but i am not an expert on it. >> i have got another one. in my washington lifetime, lafayette square has always been a high-security zone. it's only gotten more secure every year. >> that's right. >> can you give us a little flavor of what it might have been like 100 years ago? 150 years ago? >> sure. this is all new, as you and i have lived through the same age . after the oklahoma city bombing, they closed pennsylvania avenue. up to my son to go skateboarding. it was a wholly different place. the white house, you could walk right into the white house. yeah. for a l

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. >> s.e. kupp is with us as well.ars and got to watch him over the years. i wonder what you're thinking right now. >> well, if i can be personal, i am thinking that my very good friend is in one of those cars. and megyn, his daughter, has had a really tough year with all of this and this must be the culmination of all of that. and, you know, this family has had -- has had a lot of ups and downs through this awful illness, this awful disease. i hope as they're approaching this first of a number of incredible ceremonies honoring senator mccain that there's a sense of peace. that there's a sense of gratitude, that there's a sense that, you know, this is -- this is over. and as meghan said it is mourning now. the dream is over. it is mourning. and so, you know, i'm just watching, hoping that my friend and her family is feeling okay today. >> we are all hoping for meghan mccain, cindy mccain, all of the mccains. this is a very, very difficult moment. certainly this will just be the start, though, over these next few days.

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