>> yes, with the s.f. p.u.c., miss miller is quite right, there's a $500,000 not to exceed contract the p.u.c. has with power, with $390,000 remaining on it. as miss miller notes, every dollar that we can husband will be available for outreach and marketing and potential appropriations that might be needed. so there is a very strong interest in keeping consultant costs down to what actually lines up with what we need. on that point, one of the bits of direction we also heard an item similar to this, an item that was related to the extension of the contract, it's now been extended for another 12 months that was approved by my commission last week, last tuesday. it had a clear direction to only be hiring consultants for projects that directly relate to the scope of the program that we are envisioning. there are parts of the proposed scope better currently in discussion with local power and the advocates that do not line up with the existing plan for the program. supervisor campos: supervisor mirkarimi? supervisor

to try to make sure that meeting happens, a special meeting by the s.f. p.u.c. commission some time in august. and if we can, you know, your schedules, you take a break in august so i'm not -- but it could be possible that we could meet in august. even with them if we got a date. certain we would have a joint meeting then and we could push that alternative as well. >> so mr. campbell through the chair can we get a joint meeting in august? >> as i mentioned in my remarks, i know by the tuesday meeting that my commissioners did express an interest in that. so i can take back the discussion as well. >> is he still the chair of the commission? >> yes, sir. >> if i may wanted to add a point here, which is we have made it very clear to the p.u.c., p.u.c. staff of the importance of having something done before the board of supervisors takes its recess. that's the reason we tried to have a joint meeting in july and where it became very clear scheduling would not allow for a joint meeting, then would push very hard to make sure there was a p.u.c. meeting prior to a lafco

presentation i skipped over was about the numerous presentations made in public about lafco and s.f. p.u.c. so there have not been many votes the current commissioners have taken on this matter. there have been public presentations. there also have been some private briefing that's i know of. but perhaps if this is a broader issue, it should be taken up at the giant p.u.c. lafco meeting. >> when is the joint meeting, sfleeze >> we don't have a date. it is something we started talking with mike about today. but i am serious about going to meet on our own -- hopefully with mike, with each commissioner, to talk about what their concerns are. as to the joint meeting, i did have a conversation with the -- with ed harrington about trying to set up their special meeting in august, which is something the commission did direct them to do. and i do think we also ought to set up a joint meeting. i mean, so that if action isn't taken in august, we can be prepared to do so in september when we have the joint meeting. >> i think you're being potentially naive about the fact that coming into a intensifie