s.p.d. leadership martin childes has the green light to continue negotiations that could lead to another coalition government with angela merkel's conservatives yes p d is still in the game and there's still a chance that it will at least put its stamp on the policies of the next german government find puts in one per cent of something is more than one hundred percent of nothing so if we can do something good for people in this country if we can do something for europe and people around us i believe and i know many have a different view but my view is we should do it. can be a part time feeling and zoltan here is. the major policy lines have already been agreed between the social democrats and conservatives the coming final round of talks will be about details but s.p.d. leaders say their approach will still be tough. we are not giving up on the s.p.d. by deciding to join me on the policy in government. in sunday's decision also means a personal reprieve for martin schulz who's standing within the s.p.d. has suffered after it had its worst result ever in a general election and schultz did a very p

s.p.d. leadership are united in arguing in favor of the deal leader martin schultz told delegates that many people are looking to the s.p.d. to represent them against conservative policies the only move in the no name on. the five workers pension is single parents school students in trainees people who are renting their homes these are our people these are the people who are relying on us for not it's also also said the rise of nationalism across europe means social democratic ideas are more needed than ever. is a nation of billick can you know. this right wing wave across europe can be broken by a german government which supports democracy human rights freedom in europe just because the s.p.d. is part of it of that reason alone it's worth joining this government you can even go saying you know it's not everyone at this conference is convinced by these arguments the influential leader of the s.p.d. youth wing is bitterly opposed to another coalition with angle americal it's a lot it's been made up absolute this is a grand coalition the common ground has been used to this it demands on all of

against a grand coalition bill be such a big question mark over the leadership skills of martin schulz that he can no longer remain as s.p.d. leader. a no from the party conference would also put chancellor merkel in an awkward position it's an unusual situation for america she can only wait and see wait and see whether a party other than her own will help her secure a fourth term as chancellor if a second attempt to form a government fails macas public image will suffer no one could replace her right away but there are younger politicians and have party who are waiting in the wings for now though they are keeping a low profile. which bullied him and refused to talk about what may happen after machall she's been a leading candidate she is germany's chancellor and she must also lead the next go . that should be the focus of our attention not what might happen in the future so the leaders of three different parties are keeping their fingers crossed that b.s.p. party congress on sunday will vote in favor of a grand coalition. meanwhile chancellor merkel's been in paris to meet with the french president and manuel kron they're

s.p.d. party leader martin schultz will try to convince a special party conference to back the leadership's decision to talk to the chancellor's conservatives about entering into a new grand coalition the s.p.d. can only start formal negotiations with the conservatives if the conference votes yes but the party is split with particular resistance from its youth wing a no vote would mean i have a minority government or fresh elections watching scholtz has been speaking about sunday's vote vehicle surveillance of unity we are concentrating on reaching a majority of the party congress on sunday in favor of the decision to enter into talks aimed at finding a coalition deal that is my task to get a majority of others are trying to get a majority for their positions that is how a democratic party works up in about how they will cut fission power. let's get more on this from his friend you crouse she's a political scientist at bourbons humbled university welcome to t.w. german politics getting interesting as a novelty let's talk about sunday's vote then and its importance we'll start first of all wi

s.p.d. party leader martin schultz will try to convince a special party conference to back of the leadership decision to talk to the chance the conservatives about entering into a new grand coalition will negotiations with the conservatives can only be good if the conference votes yes but there is resistance from the s.p.d. particularly its youth wing and over with me a minority government or the possibly old possibility of fresh elections i should say spoke a while ago in a short while ago in berlin and here's what he said about sunday's vote your thoughts are clearly on the start of the we are concentrating on reaching a majority at a party congress on sunday in favor of the decision to enter into talks aimed at finding a coalition deal that is my task to get a majority of others are trying to get a majority for their positions that is how the democratic party works up you know a bit of it will cost the pub so those talks with about starting those talks about talks about starting a coalition with chancellor merkel's conservatives resistance particularly strong in the youth wing of the s.p.

against a grand coalition they'll be such a big question mark over the leadership skills of martin schultz that he can no longer remain as s.p.d. leader. a no from the party conference would also put chancellor merkel in an open position it's an unusual situation for america she can only wait and see wait and see whether a party other than her own will help to secure a fourth term as chancellor if a second attempt to form a government failed macas public image will suffer no one could replace her right away but there are younger politicians and have party who are waiting in the wings for now though they are keeping a low profile. which bullied him and refused to talk about what may happen after magical she's been a leading candidate she is germany's chancellor and she must also lead the next guy . that should be the focus of our attention not what might happen in the future so the leaders of three different parties are keeping their fingers crossed that b.s. peace party congress on sunday will vote in favor of a grand coalition. well for more on the likelihood of that grand coalition i'm joined in the studio by christophe knew

s.p.d. party leader martin schulz he'll face one of his most difficult votes so. that we will have lively and controversial debates we just had a long meeting with party leadership and the debate was similarly animated. brandenburg state premier is confident his party will vote for a new coalition government. the people in this country expect us to act they expect the social democrats to look after the people and thinking about poverty among the elderly or pensions nursing care insurance people need us to action now. six hundred delegates and you to vote on whether to enter coalition talks with merkel's conservatives some s.p.d. regional groups have already made their recommendations but delegates here are free to vote according to their conscience five regional groups have come out in favor of launching coalition talks lower saxony. brandenburg but three other states. have recommended voting no the wild card is north rhine-westphalia which is sending the highest number of delegates to the conference social democrats they're split on how to vote. it's going to be a tight result and i think we're going to back coalition tox much of our base may be skeptical and we ar

probably hear martin shows the leader of the social democrats speaking right behind me here in a barn or he and another prominent member of the party leadership. regional leader of the s.p.d. clearly stated why they believe that the s.p.d. should enter those formal coalition talks with the conservatives they have in particular mentioned that the party could change more within a government than if they went into the opposition in particular in two areas one the keystrokes of democratic areas in the social justice for example pensions or health or other areas like that education and second one in europe that's one that martin shows himself has been very on many occasions stress that it's particularly important for the social democrats of this is not only about the party not only about germany it is also about the future of europe he stressed that him self and this is also part of his speech here in bonn there's talk of a yes vote but with conditions there are some s.p.d. delegates who've said they're they're already going to vote no from their point of view what are some of the pro and con arguments. well one of the pro arguments is the one that i've just mentioned the idea

s.p.d. leadership that the there is the possibility of wiggling room negotiation on topics what do you think about that did you hear anyone there talking about that being a possibility and explaining why we heard martin schultz the head of the s.p.d. saying today that you know everything is still on the table. well officially the conservatives have been saying for quite some time that there is very little room for maneuver when it comes to. possible coalition discussions with the social democrats but obviously it can't be the case that the social democrats here as martin showed himself said what they want some sort of progress on these talks they don't believe that the agreements that they reached during the preliminary talks so-called exploratory talks are simply set in stone they want to be able to negotiate further in fact that was part of martin shows his strategy today that was part of his speech today on the one hand he stressed all the things that they had already in his opinion managed to achieve in that document and that agreement with the conservatives for example in areas like social justice or europe europe being a particularly important area for martin shows but he also stressed in his s

s.p.d. to come to this decision. on the point to make here is that yes this is a victory for martin schulz and the party leadership but at some considerable cost because fifty six percent perhaps voted in favor of that means that forty four percent there or thereabouts of the party delegates at the conference which is finishing behind me now voted directly against it and the tenor of the speeches that we heard in those four hours you were talking about who was quite quite moved there was some pointed criticism of the sort of leadership style that the current leadership of the shops and some of his ministerial colleagues have used in the last few months since the general election clearly referring to the fact that how was it the case that he could be so opposed to another government with angela merkel in september after the election and yet suddenly come the new year came this change of opinion this desire to go into government so division is the word that really describes how the s.p.d. is after that result how could that play out now in the coming weeks and months could these divisions be exacerbated. well the point

leader martin schultz will try and convince a special party conference to back its leadership's decision to talk to the chancellor and her conservatives about entering into a new grand coalition the s.p.d. can only start formal negotiations with the conservatives if this conference for us yes but the party is split with particular resistance from its youth wing a no vote would mean i've got a minority government all fresh elections washing shields has been speaking about the coming out. if your quotes are clear on the start of the we are concentrating on reaching a majority of the party congress on sunday in favor of the decision to enter into talks aimed at finding a coalition deal that is my task to get a majority and others are trying to get a majority for their positions that is how a democratic party works up in a lot of it will call fission power to get more on this from his funny across is a political science that burdens humble to university welcome to g.w. german politics gets interesting as a novelty let's talk about sunday's vote and its importance will start first of all with its importance for germany yes obviously it's very important because you know right now we only hav