in this case, it was sabeer bhatia and his partner, jack smith.nd an idea unlike anything i have seen before, which is, wow, e-mail wherever you go not tied to a corporate system or an e-mail server. it was like a lightbulb went off. we invested in what became the first example of viral marketing on the internet. emily: of course, microsoft went on to buy hotmail. dfj made millions of dollars. i want to talk about how you became a guy who can make these kinds of predictions and big bets. tell me about where you come from. what kind of kid were you? steve: i don't know if i ever grew up. that is the first thing that comes to mind. i was born in arizona to estonian immigrants who came here during the early days of the semiconductor industry. i was inspired by my dad growing up. i started programming when the apple ii computer first came out. i think there is something intoxicating about the ability to program a machine to code it to do things unlike other and have immediate feedback unlike other experiments that take time to learn. the learning cycl