let's go with in sabrina sheaffer and rick hunger. >>> when the federal government focuses on race what it usually does is inflame racial tensions. aggrieved party feels like the federal government is not doing enough. and then that the federal government is doing too much to placate. i don't like lots of excessive police force, but in this case, we've got to pull back. >> and, rick, justice in this country is supposed to be blind. doesn't it go a little bit beyond that? >> i don't know that it does, actually. you need to understand this is an organization that's been around for 50 years, used by administrations on both sides and not always a situation that involves racial rioting or what we've seen in ferguson. so, yeah, unless you've been in their presence and you see that it behaved in a way that's inappropriate. there's nothing to show that they've done anything but -- >> i don't know what evidence shows have been helpful. i do know after they arrived things in ferguson got a lot worse for several days. didn't get better. so the situation did not improve. the question of what they d

let's go with in sabrina sheaffer and