parmy olson, who is sabu? >> one of the key people that i interviewed for the book, and he was also pretty much the defacto leader of the splinter group of anonymous called lulzsec which was an acting group. there were organizers to start with, and the kind of found each other in some of the private channels used by hackers and press release riders in late 2010 and early 2011. they formed friendships and created this splinter group called lulzsec. sabu became friends with another key interviewee in the book called topiary. not so much a hacker as he was an entertainer. and a great communicator and a great writer. someone who was very good networking. when the two of these guys work together, sabu was quite a skilled actor. they decided that they wanted to a comma after there had been a 2-month lull in activity, they wanted to do something to be inspired and creates some kind of projects that they could get their closest collaborators to work together on. the two of them plus another four or five others have wo

talk about that. >> the first person to be arrested was sabu. he was the charismatic figure, the when people looked up to, almost older brother within lulzsec. could be a aggressive and was known to tell people off from time to time, very hot headed from time to time if you got on the wrong side of them. he was the first to be arrested on june 6, 2011. really right in the middle of the lulzsec hacking spree. and he kind of went off-line for about 24, 36 hours and everybody on the chat rooms, private chat rooms he had been frequenting were very worried. i remember him telling at the time he was very worried about whether he had been arrested or not. didn't sabu came back online and said that everything was fine and, in fact, his grandmother had died and who's going to be off-line for a few more days to deal with funeral arrangements and whatnot. the truth was that the fbi had come to his house and had threatened, that he would be incarcerated for two years because they had evidence to prove he had been involved in credit card fraud. into a void t