a traitor after providing legal defense to a controversial figure such as slobodan milosevic and saddam hussein you have described both of their trials as unfair and flawed and last year the world saw form former libyan leader moammar qaddafi murdered before receiving any trial could was to blame for that crime well don't want. the american people are to blame because they let their government good the american people though i mean this is the is the american government really acting on behalf of public opinion within the country i mean he would think that if you did have opinion. i mean you know you see the american people allow their government to do it to the u.s. government really consults with what the people want before taking foreign policy measures i wouldn't call it confrontational or manipulation go through nucular public opinion to support his policy whatever it is and war particularly. looking toward military action is pretty important condition the public forum which is. moderate i mean you don't have a minor promotion is the american public. pettine dating concern about wh

did defeat saddam hussein in iraq. and when it turned over control of iraq to the different political parties then as iraq we covered it sovereignty u.s. influence was very limited and i think it is extremely limited today perhaps overshadowed by iranian influence but that's you know the decision of the iraq east and i would expect in libya to the. you know as they say in the middle east no good deed goes unpunished so. you know all libyans and i have a good feeling about being delivered from could offie if this revolution becomes factionalized and there is a. struggle for power then i think those good feelings could disappear pretty quickly so there's no you know permanent store or credit i would say in the middle east although you know i think the u.s. is perceived to be your more benign power even by many is alarmists after a libya ok doubt if i got it to you to learn it heard it be heard to begin the program we just heard of the law of unintended consequences ok i posited the if he says the military interventions y

prime minister maliki's visit to kuwait that end add thorny dispute over aircraft confiscated by saddam hussein. and now, plans to host the arab league summit in baghdad later this month on march 29. while iran and iraq i will be more entwined than we and many of iraq's neighbors would like one thing we learned over eight years in iraq is this. the vast majority of its leaders including the prime minister, are first and foremost iraqi nationalists and resist tant to outs influence from any quarter including iran. baghdad repeatedly acted contrary to iran's interest including with the support for the arab league and resolution on syria, its pressure on shia militants, and the patience it has shown despite pressure from tehran during efforts to relocate the residents of camp ashraf. so all of this progress is real. but so, too, is the peril. iraq faces profound challenges about fundamental issues. we see them with clear eyes, finding ways to share power. stamping out the violent extremists who launch outrageous attacks on security forces and foreign diplomats who are just trying to do the

we the problem is if you talk to most iraqis and after all many iraqis at the time of saddam hussein many of them all should be intervention because this would get rid of it it's a trend that was what they wanted virtually nobody in iraq will say that the thing has been a success it's been a loss of failure the troops had to leave the british troops there several years ago the american troops have now left for the most part of that country and they've got a totally broken country they are now quite incredibly trying to do the same again both in syria and in my view even more dangerously in the wrong and you know you have to recognize that this view. of the whole of world peace has been the americans is olds with what millions of people around the world really think and it's not an accurate description of the end of the second world war it's not unlike europe description of the post-war period where america was involved in the most bloody and damaging war in vietnam virtually nobody to friends that war today and he has played an absolutely destructive role in the middle east backing d

or is it a dead end well it's probably a dead end largely because the civil war is likely to go on saddam has engaged in murderous activities thousands of people have lost their lives it's a terrible situation the problem however is what is the aftermath if in fact assad is the pose what actually occurs is the muslim brotherhood that takes over and yet it gets yet another put it put a lock in and that part of the world or in fact does do the democratic forces emerge there are a lot of competing interests russia obviously has a warm water port in syria and would like to see the retention assad you have the chinese playing a role there as well so it's a very very complicated situation well senator mccain has called for military action on the part of the united states and its allies i doubt very much whether that will occur and large part because. we are very much concerned about what happens after assad if indeed there is an after assad ok and i'm glad you're thinking about the aftermath because that's what i always think about lindsey if i can go to you i mean the peace process there if we

it's all silence the end in slow march to a lecture the village that was won by saddam st and was wiped completely. it's the history that i think it's one of the common in our century a leader from doing this to so many people. for. the first there is nothing you can do about it but the remembering of logic and make you think how to prevent the. losers what can we do to stop making that happen take it as humans not as there's not a single man is not the world he's you know not us citizens of any country but as humans. this is basically by the station house aging from items that i use for protection has been to bring all of these elements in this is moral the same and see how it works in fronting for its time. as i was working the ransom here on earth taking place in the green movement so a lot of this is just part of events that are sharks five mobile phones and recorded as rossi's major upgrades and the pain is still. there the reason for this uprising is that people dance on bullshit and their voice was. told people i don't even know you want their voices heard i am i the same as. the

as iran was being hounded and simple answers the western powers were to be arms and weapons to saddam hussein this is been the route of mostly runs mistrust where the rest of the world . the told. the cut cut. the. little you express ourselves through rap music with them over the through we talk about things we see in real life i'm living with an island. in the middle of the tongue the gold coast. cut a little of them but as soon as comes from nationalism and i'm from the love of our motherland we are trying to reach people and have our words heard not just in iran but by people all over the world hopefully will have a positive effect even if it's just a small loss and receive. such a clear cut cut. i always wanted to own some homers to know these are to learn in my childhood and use them in my work. her car. her. it's all silence at the end it's a march to a lecture the village that was from like saddam hussein and was wiped completely. it's history that i think it's one of the crime in our century a leader and doing this to so many people. the first there is nothing we can do about

similar to what happened in iraq after saddam hussein was toppled. tina krause, cbs news. >> u. n. officials say that more than 9,000 people have died in syria's year long battle. >>> coming up next, howard has the forecast. >> j. c., bright sunshine right now. but we've got some chilly weather tonight. some of the area is under a freeze warning once again. we'll let you know who might be suffering from that. we go to break though with a look at the noontime temperatures. haven't moved much on this morning, still in the mid 50s in places like great falls and springfield. i'll be back and we'll look at when the next rain system is coming your way and the full seven day forecast. 9news now returns in just a moment. >>> we've been combing through the day's daily deals e-mails and websites the find you some deep discounts on this thursday and here are some of the favorites. want a smart phone but not the big price tag? check out best buy. $39.99 for a cricket samsung vitality android phone. no contract on this one. normally $99.99. so you're saving $60 here. >>> well, here's a good dea

all they did was keep putting the same saddam hussein and 9-11. sometimes they couldwould connect him and they would say can you believe what happened on 9-11. let's go getsed saddam hussein. isn't that the bully pulpit at work right there? >> well, there certainly was confusion among many in the american public about who was responsible for 9-11, and, of course, there was substantial confusion even after, after the war about whether we found weapons of mass decisionstruction. >> that's a bit citiesdisheartening for anythingone who cares a lot about public affairs. however, i still, the fact still is, that whatever you may think of the rhetoric of the administration, the fact remains that a large percentage of the american people didn't golee along. and despite a predisposition, particularly when you think you are threatened and particularly in the aftermath of 9-11 when there has been this tubalerrible trauma expensed by the country and leaders tell you that there is crazy people with weapons of mass destruction, and even under those circumstance

begins without striking selected targets some will occur importance that undermine saddam hussein's ability to wage a war we should get off their differences with the defense budget that surpasses the military expenditure of all other countries combined. no other nation drones are poor. as consistently as america and while people are still responding and recovering from the violence that's committed in one place or even in the same place we're launching new operations and more atrocities in different parts of the world the military industrial complex worth billions of dollars is largely america's driving force. deeply rooted in the system it would serve no purpose if there was no one to fight if there were a number of enemies left there would be raw serve a sense of mission or frightening thought to many as this would reveal the economic social and cultural emptiness at home here was a country when there are no enemies who try to put together the evil empire again do in syria what we're doing now in libya we've got to overthrow this guy the threat that iran poses us year in and year out ame

brute is against the on the saddam regime. and insists that we do that which is very much in the order of the be. there or to be and talk about the latest there from unama this is r.t. from moscow still ahead for you a flash of inspiration for russia's election cameras weeks after keeping a fair eye on the presidential poll we look now at how these costly web cam networks can open up the shutters of a new lease of life. next britain's petrol prices are hitting new highs is the government still driving up the fuel tax leaving motorists and businesses feeling i'm broke you'll hear about that as well we got to the details coming up shortly in a few minutes. during a tense thirty two hour siege this week french police shot dead a government into loose and murdered seven people mohammed made a kill three children and a teacher at a jewish school as well as three soldiers french one of the scent was shot more than twenty times in the end by officers as he tried to escape through his apartment window he claim ties to al qaeda and the

hussein from power saddam two is gone for good and as of a few months ago some of the u.s. troops but here's a question how is iraq really doing now in afghanistan on march nineteenth ten years ago the first large scale non special operations mission operation anaconda ended what else is going on there well some of the loddon is now dead but that war lives on so we want to talk a little bit about some of these historic events and how they've impacted the world today so earlier i spoke to david swanson and he told me what came out of all these interventions take a listen. it is remarkable indeed that we have so many wars that the universe restyle up on top of each other now i don't want the ten thousands of deaths in the war in iraq to go without trial meant by any rational calculation so over a million deaths we have to include the iraqis along with the americans in libya we indeed saw a war launched without non-porous with it with an intense unavoidably any authorization from congress whatsoever although it would easily have been had a war launched on the basis of a un res

not taking down saddam. why didn't you take down saddam when you hadhe chance and so forth and we were worried about what happened. the shi'a sunni rivalry the ethnic divisions and so forth. >> rose: was he a better politician than you are? >> george h.w.? >> rose: yeah. >> yeah because he was able to put his name on the ballot and run for office. >> rose: what manner of man is he that you are not? did he have some gene that you don't have? >> he was willing to... i've got a picture from my pal of 50 years now. it's a pictur of h when h was vice president and he's sprawled across a bowling alley and he fell flat on his face and he says "jim baker, look and learn. 90% of life is just showing up." it's a great picture. >> rose: and it's true. and he had the guts and the-- pardon me, if you will-- the balls to get out there and he was nobody when he started. he was an asterisk in the polls but he... that didn't look... he didn't let that the stop him. >> you mean running for president? >> when he decided to run

. >> would you have said the same thing about saddam hussein? >> i think so. >> ze acze>> did he act rationa. there was more of a pattern of rationality. this is not to condone their behavior. or what they do to their people. >> that is right. >> the fact is saddam hussein had a wrapped judgment as to what the united states would do in a gross misjudgment. >> see i agree were that. do you think the ira iranians ae capable of making a gross misjudgement of what the united states and the israelis may do. >> >> i do.they could get it wrongd suffer the contes connecticut . >> they could get it wrong and suffer the conhe i consequences. >> we are in constant contact with our israeli counterparts. and on monday i will be meeting with my counterpart for the third time and i have been a chairman for six months. >> for the third time and you have been a chairman for six months. >> we are in contact constantly. i would describe our present position, that is what you asked me. this way. we don't disagree in terms of intent we disagree in terms of time. >>

. >> saddam ford follows up with reaction. -- sam ford follows up with reaction. >> it seems that any candidate with contributions was a focus for the probe. we spoke with the treasure of the campaign of a losing candidate who said they received only one check from one of his associates and they were subpoenaed. two council members went on the air today. >> he told us her campaign office received a subpoena today. jack evans said he received one yesterday. >> they are looking into all of the campaign finance stuff involved jeff thompson. it does not surprise me that everyone would be looked at. >> geoffrey thompson gave money to 12 of the 13 members of the council. you will see money for candidates who won, lost. campaigns of both are receiving federal subpoenas. >> i have not received anything regarding a subpoena or jeff thompson at all. >> he added "as of yet." vincent gray of another investigation, they are cynical of the latest news. >> money talks, and when you need a favor -- >> >> i think it is the corruption of corruption that has -- the culture of corruption that has caught

today marks the ninth anniversary coalition attack on saddam hussein. back in 2003, we quickly deposed the heinous dictator while trying to give the iraqi people a better life. the same thing we are doing now in afghanistan. that invasion in iraq marked a downturn. since then $1.2 trillion in actions in iraq and afghanistan. money we simply don't have. in addition, more than 6,000 military people have lost their lives. nearly 50,000. 50,000 have been wounded. talking points america needs resurrection. get the federal government under control. come up with a budget. reinvigorate economy by allowing the private marketplace to run. president obama is smart enough to understand that but he continues to play to his left wing base. 8 months from now. that may lead to his defeat. and that's the memo. now for the top story tonight. reaction, joining us from iraq washington. fox news analyst karl rove who was in the white house nine years ago today when the iraq invasion began. where am i going wrong here, mr. rove. >> first pick out the areas of agreement. you

saddam was breaking a. iraq was breaking up again. iran, the u.s., the tensions, the gulf was almost on the verge of something new. the whole promise of mutual respect and mutual interest was really going down the drain. palestine was again, israel, that was flaring up. everybody looked in the arab region, things were getting worse. thinks never looked as star trek i actually was so, after finishing the know, i was so distressed i went to china. i actually traveled to china. and japan. so it actually in december i was in china and japan. the new year i was in china and japan. china throughout january and february, and i followed afterwards, there wasn't a word about the arab spring. there wasn't a word about what was going on in tunisia. but anyway, and again as the saying goes, the brightest, i mean, light comes after the darkest moment of the night. just when everything looks so dark, a new horizon opened up. the new horizon opened up by a generation that everyone, and here i mean everyone almost, was considering a burden, a demogra

in 2002, kagan and kristol wrote, "a devastating knockout blow against saddam hussein, followed by anamerican-sponsored effort to rebuild iraq and put it on a path toward democratic governance, would have a seismic impact on the arab world -- for the better." hindsight is 20/20, as the saying goes, and nine years later we look back and see with perfect clarity how well jimmy stewart's america delivered in iraq. talk about wishful thinking. so next time president obama's looking for a book to read, better he pick up a copy of "the short american century: a postmortem." in it, several distinguished historians - including andrew bacevich - urge us to take off the rose-colored glasses and see the world as it is. it is not a movie. that's it for this week. at our website, billmoyers.com you can read a chapter from "the short american century: a postmortem" and you'll find some startling statistics about the cost of war. coming up, the 99% spring, a new nationwide campaign for working people. we'll talk with three of its organizers. >> i've loved this nexus of labor and community. that actu

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