power push saddam hussein out of kuwait and vanquish the fifth largest army in the world. and then he was smart enough not to get caught in the quicksand of an occupation wars. and made the firm choice not to follow hussein all the way into baghdad. a lot of criticism at that time and now people at back on it and recognizes the rate decision. he didn't just in foreign policy. he did domestic policy. he took a 13 year blog jam on clean air, changed it from command and control were bureaucrats dictate how you're supposed to reduce emission and builds a package of legislation based on free enterprise and incentives and flexibility is an more than the admissions people had been desiring between one 10th and one fifth of the cost. he recognized it was time for civil rights bill but had to be a good summer read the bill. it would've been a a quota bill to send it back and rewritten as a fair bill. he proposed legislation to deregulate energy and we are benefiting from the deregulation of energy today. he passed legislation which provided vouchers and support her families with ch

saddam's home. he had palaces everywhere but his actual physical residence where mrs. husseinnd he lived within his birth village. we occupied it early on in may of 2003. my soldiers swam in saddam's pool early on and had water in it. we all brought home some adjusting souvenirs from the home. i have bohemian crystal from mrs. hussein's cupboard. notice and mrs. russell's cupboard. we used it as an observation post. it'd taken two hits from j. and m. missiles, rearrange the furniture in the cabinetry quite a bit but it was overengineered in the structure still stood so we stay there. we did want the building to become a shrine to saddam later. i ordered it be constructed and propose to have salvage crews come in and take it apart by brick and use the material in salvage it out.

it is saddam hussein's birthday. it is his 66th birthday. and you may say, why are you happy about that? and i'll tell you why, because this will be his demise. this will be his downfall. let me explain. i signed him up for a free birthday sundae at friendly's. now-- [laughter] --when he shows up-- [applause] then they get him! so it might have already happened. as of the airing of this program, saddam hussein was captured at the quaker bridge mall in new jersey at friendly's, eating a sundae out of a tiny helmet. [laughter] (iraqi accent) oh, these boston red sox are-- oh, boy. that's right. but the defeat of saddam hussein may be but the appetizer on a banquet of american whoop-ass. though the united states military has digested and passed an entire middle eastern country its maw hangs slack and drooling for more. syria in particular has been the subject of much saber rattling among the hawks and the bush administration, or as they're collectively known, the bush administration. [laughter] secretary of state donald rumsfeld has said he bel

they were not fans of saddam hussein. since the overthrow of his government, they lost the stability that accompanied the fact that it was a very repressive regime if you did to -- dare to speak against the government. and that is a serious problem that i don't think u.s. policy makers took into account. there is a sense, because we identify someone as a terrorist and, objectively yes, osama bin laden was a terrorist. saddam hussein not so much. a repressive dictator, yes, but a terrorist, no. but, whatever they were, in our view, they were that one thing and that one thing only. for people in the region, people who are closer to them than we are, they are many things. it is a much more nuanced understanding. we do not understand nuance very well in this country. brian: what about the reaction to president obama? what do you think of him? phyllis: today, i am very proud of president obama for the agreement with iran, which took a lot of political courage. it shouldn't have. there should never have to be political courage

looking back in hindsight it would have been great if saddam hussein was still there. iran has become the mud dominant forces and a fair amount of truth to that. we could have prevented iran from gaining its dominant position had we not pull out in 2011 because that opened the door and that will be hard for us to get away from and now you have 100,000 iraqi troops trained by iranians and a small number we have trained but in the long term what we have -- there is still a hope that we can keep it from becoming completely pro iranian because that is the only way you can have a unified iraqi government trying to to do three separate governments. you have a problem with the kurds, turkey is saying they will go in militarily because they don't want the kurdish nation having sunni state is also workable but sunnis, there's not a good way to engage them because we let them down repeatedly and trying to rehabilitate them will be problematic. we have to be in iraq for a long time. >> then we will come forward. just behind you. >> thank you. my affiliation is not relevant to thi

. >> reporter: a former officer under saddam hussein. that was a big victory highlighting the inability or unwillingness to defend the city. isil began consolidating its power and setting its sights on baghdad. his death won't necessarily halt isil's advance nor diminish its authority in the areas it controls. it remains deeply entrenched where it controls all asecretaries oaspects oflife. >> how important was he to the leadership? >> we heard that he had a high ranking position in the leadership of isil in charge of military operations in iraq. the man had a military background and military skills. he was a member of the iraqi army under saddam hussein. he knows the land. the man is from mosul and that's where he was which gives him an advantage. he understands the people, he understands the culture. he can reach out to the people. he is an iraqi, he is not a foreigner. so undoubtedly this is a major blow to the group. but most analysts will say this is a short-term setback. at the end of the day, isil is a secretive organization. but i

i mean, i'm not a fan of saddam hussein. but he ran the place. and he had no weapons of mass destruction. and now instead of saddam hussein, we are far more brutal. we have isis. and we will have iran, because they're already making deals. two weeks ago i read where the leaders of iraq are visiting the leaders of iran. what do we get out of this? what do we get? we have stupid leadership. if you remember -- i didn't want to go in. i was right. [ applause ] i didn't want to go in. i was right. but then we were in. and it was bad. and there were still bombings, but it was bad. but we're in. at some point we have to go out. we can't stay there forever. we have to rebuild this country. we have to rebuild our country. we have to. [ applause ] our bridges are falling apart. our roads are a mess. our schools, our highways, everything, it's a mess. who is better at infrastructure than trump? okay? okay? [ applause ] so look, at some point we have to get out. they talked about the surge. the surge. remember bush's brother, he said, the war is over. we hav

iran, which saw its strategic position strengthened by the removal of its long-standing enemy, saddam hussein. i raise this recent history, because now more than ever, we need clear thinking in our foreign policy. and i raise this history because it bares directly on how we respond to the iranian nuclear program. that program has been around for decades, dating back to the shaw's efforts with u.s. support in the 1960s and '70s, to develop nuclear power. the three accuracy that every through the shaw accelerated the program after the iran, iraq war in the 1980s, a war in which saddam hussein used chemical weapons to brutal effect. and the program advanced steadily through the 1990s, despite unilateral u.s. sanctions. when the bush administration took office iran had no centrifuges. but despite repeated warnings from the united states government, by the time i took office, iran had installed several thousand centrifuges, and showed no inclination to slow, much less halt its program. among u.s. policy makers there has never been disagreement on the danger posed by an iranian nuclear bomb. democr

it is saddam hussein's birthday. it is his 66th birthday.d i'll tell you why, because this will be his demise. this will be his downfall. let me explain. i signed him up for a free birthday sundae at friendly's. now-- [laughter] --when he shows up-- [applause] then they get him! so it might have already happened. as of the airing of this program, saddam hussein was captured at the quaker bridge mall in new jersey at friendly's, eating a sundae out of a tiny helmet. [laughter]

nonetheless, is a saddam hussein was a threat to peace. and because of his hostility to the world, we chose war. hussein was toppled and iraq did get a glimpse of freedom and democracy. their courageous participation in their elections as tom mentioned demonstrated the hunger and the appreciation for free the dome. in fact, i will never forget just weeks after we went in to iraq, the catholic patriot, came to rome and asked if he could visit me, and i received him at my residence in rome and he was the leader of about 850,000 catholics. and for whom, hussein kept up a protected a status. and the dispute between the sunni and the the shia were off to the side spite of the fact that they knew this would be disassem p -- he said, thank you for coming to my country and freeing us. exhibiting that innate desire that man has, but for freedom, and the euphoria he exhibited was, was exillrating knowing even as he did the risks that they are now in because of this. but, you know, one can debate the conduct of the war as many have, and one can argue

explain. >> well, that was a panel, a panel from a four-panel door that was saddam hussein's bedroom. it was explosively breached, and that was the small part of it that is still, you know, still intact. so that was -- i was a deputy acting commander in special forces in iraq in 2004. so, i was responsible for, you know, a lot of different missions and what was going on. and that was one of the non-value items that were brought back. >> what was it like to be in iraq? what was going through your mind during that mission and during the early stages of the war? >> well, iraq is a very complicated country. it's sophisticated. but very basic in others. iraq has a sunnis population, which is very proud and has currently been disenfranchised. it has a majority shia population that for many years was -- was, you know, put to a side as a kurdish population up north. the current crisis of what we face to a degree was a result of creating a vacuum. it's a battle within islam, as much as a battle between east and west. it's not going to go away unless america, you know, leads by example. and thi

i mean, i'm not a fan of saddam hussein, but he ran the place. and he had no weapons of mass destruction. and now instead of saddam hussein, we have far more brutal. we have isis. and we have iran because they're already making deals. i read where the leaders of iraq are visiting the leaders of iran. what did we get out of this? what did we get? we have stupid leadership. now, if you remember -- so i didn't want to go in. i was right. i didn't want to go in. i was right. but then we were in. and it was bad. and there was still bombings, but it was bad. but we're in. and at some point we have to go out. we can't stay there forever. we have to rebuild this country, we have to rebuild our country. our bridges are falling apart. our roads are a mess. our schools, our highways, everything, it's a mess. who's better at infrastructure than trump? okay? okay? so look, at some point we have to get out. they talk about the surge, the surge. remember bush's brother? he said, the war is over. we've taken over. you know, like two days later it was a disaster.

he is saying we got saddam hussein out, didn't we? not a fan of saddam hussein, but he ran the place, and he had no weapons of mass destruction. now instead of saddam hussein we are far more brutal. we have isis. we will have iran. they are making deals. the leaders of iraq are visiting the leaders of iran. what do we get out of this? we have stupid leadership. [applause] i didn't to want to go in but i was right. it was bad. at some point we have to go out. we have to rebuild this country. we have to rebuild our country. we have to. our bridges are falling apart. our roads are a mess. our schools, our highways. everything. who is better at infrastructure than trump? [applause] they talked about the surge. bush's brother said the war is over. two days later the was a disaster. obama said that with yemen. he announced yemen was a victory. then three months later it was a disaster. we don't have yemen. we don't have anything. we send over to our allies, if you call them that, there's no word for them. iraq isn't a country. it is a corru

the belief was that we had to stop saddam hussein before there was another attack on the united states like 9/11. sentiments ran very high. the rhetoric was heated. and i remember that night and i remember that there were two of my colleagues on the floor after everyone had gone home. one was kent conrad, the senator from north dakota, and the other paul wellstone the senator from minnesota. 23 of us had voted no on authorizing the war in iraq. it included the three of us who remained. i was up for reelection as was senator wellstone. and i went to paul wellstone in the well of the senate and i said paul, i hope that vote doesn't cost you the election in a few weeks. paul wellstone said to me it's all right if it does. this is who i am and this is what i believe and the people of minnesota expect nothing less. the story unfolds that in the ensuing weeks paul wellstone died in today plane crash before the election took place but i still remember that moment and i remember what i considered to be an act of conscience by my friend and colleague from minnesota. i thought about the thousand

businessmen were instrumental in putting us on that path. >> host: when was the first time he ever saw saddam hussein? >> guest: we did not see saddam, anyone until the night he was captured. i did not see him the night he was captured. i think one of the things that people don't realize is that saddam, i mean we may have seen him and just didn't realize it. where he was ultimately caught was not far from this farm but i just mentioned to you on the other bank of the tigris river. you literally could stand on one bank and see the other farm. they were visible to one another and you could even see his mansion from that location so he didn't go very far. he was protected right there, living very humbly so he did not circulate. there were rumors that he was in the area, we got a bunch of that but early on one of the things that he did do was we worked hand-in-hand with a number of organizations, special operations forces that were in the area at that time. initially the first team we worked with was focused on specific prewar targeting of key leaders. they left toward the end of may, the beginning of ju

saddam hussein not so much. a repressive dictator, yes, but a terrorist, no. our view,hey were, in they were that one thing and that one thing only. for people in the region, people who are closer to them than we are, they are many things. it is a much more nuanced understanding. we do not understand nuance very well in this country. brian: what about the reaction of president obama? what do you think of him? phyllis: today, i am very proud of president obama for the agreement with iran, which took a lot of political courage. it shouldn't have. there should never have to be political courage to say we support the primacy over war. this was a huge victory for negotiation and diplomacy over war. the fact that president obama had to use political capital and had to be brave is a real terrible statement about the state of our political reality in this country. but he was brave. he was courageous. so i plug him for that. i applaud him -- so i applaud him for that. i applaud him for the moves in cuba. so this last period, i have very proud to have voted for presiden

and saddam hussein's hometown in tick rick. the general steps dunn and the army chief who started his contrary, playing football and baseball had time to reflect on those lessons. >> i the world that we live in is so much more complex and difficult. >> and we need to have lfrp months years, he works with general jack photocopy it is a counsellor surgeon general strategy to receive to get it cap. respiratory >> in the from that that is the statistic that vs dooms it failure. >> he faced his permanent loss. his son tony lost his last arm. friday he >> most of the time i was destroyed. but she was there in are are for our families. when the general left iraq, he said secttarion violence is almost serry. >> a year later troops were pulled out of iraq and three years later isis wives born. he reflected on what iraq taught him. >> is that, there is limits. >> what is your legacy as army chief? >> i was a chief who cared about the soldiers and the army in the future. the general restiered as the war against isis rages. >> we you and w

.-- saddam hussein i'm not a fan of saddam hussein, but he ran the place, and he had no weapons of massestruction. a set of saddam hussein we are far more brutal. we have isis. we will have iran. they are making deals. the leaders of the rack are visiting the leaders of a ran. what do we get out of this? stupid leadership. [applause] in but ito want to go was right. it was bad. they were bombing step. at some point we have to go out. we have to rebuild this country. we have to rebuild our country. we have to. our bridges are falling apart. our roads are a mess. our schools, our highways. everything. who is better at infrastructure trump>omp -- ? they talked about the surge. bush's brother said the war is over. two days later the was a disaster. obama said that with the mn. he announced human was a victory. then three months later it was a disaster. we don't have vehement. we don't have anything. we send over to our allies, if you call them that, there's no word for them. iraq isn't a country. that a corrupt people string something together. it is not a country. we send over to our allie

the theocracy that overthrew the shaw -- a war in which saddam hussein used chemical weapons to brutal affect. iran's nuclear program advanced steadily through the 1990's, despite unilateral u.s. sanctions. when the bush administration took office, iran had no centrifuges. the machines necessary to produce material for a bomb. but despite repeated warnings from the united states government, by the time i took office, iran had installed several thousand centrifuges and showed no inclination to slow, much less halt, its program. among u.s. policymakers, there has never been disagreement on the danger posed by an iranian nuclear bomb. democrats and republicans alike have recognized that it would spark an arms race in the world's most unstable region and turn every crisis into a potential nuclear showdown. it would embolden terrorist groups like hezbollah and oppose -- and opposepose an unacceptable risk to israel, which iranian leaders have repeatedly threatened to destroy. more broadly, it could unravel the global commitment to nonproliferation that the world has done so much to defend.

a moment many say was the beginning of a long end for saddam hussein and his government. iraqis living in kuwait had to flee including this man and his family. >> there was no border left. when the bombardment started the most important thing for us was to go back to safety. my children were young. i drove the car straight from kuwait to iraq. >> reporter: since that invasion kuwait has had a turbulent history. sanctions followed by the u.s. and the man mourns the state of his country and future of his children. >> life in iraq is a living hell. kuwait was much better. no one would dare bother you. we would keep our doors open. >> reporter: it's a sentiment of others. >> when i returned to iraqi was 12. i found a huge lifestyle gap between iraq and kuwait and my dreams shattered. in kuwait it is stable. >> reporter: in kuwait they remember the sacrifices of those who died but look out across the border and hope the violence in iraq doesn't spill over into their country. >>> still to come on the news hour: it is known as the unreported holocost. we travel to hungary as peo

iran, which saw its strategic position strengthened by the removal of its long-standing enemy, saddam hussein. i raise this recent history because now more than ever, we need clear thinking and our foreign policy. i raise this history because it bears directly on how we respond to the iranian nuclear program. that program has been around for decades, and dating back to the shop's efforts with u.s. support in 1960's and 70's to develop nuclear power. the theocracy that overthrew the shop accelerated the program after the iran-iraq war in the 1980's, a war in which saddam hussein used chemical weapons to brutal effect and iran's nuclear program advanced through the 1990's despite unilateral u.s. sanctions. when the bushing ministration took office, iran had no centrifuges, the machines necessary to produce material for a bomb. despite repeated warnings from the united states government, by the time i took office, iran had installed several thousand centrifuges and showed no inclination to show -- too slow, much less halt its program. among u.s. policymakers, there has never been disagreement on

a war which saddam hussein used chemical weapons to brutal effect and iran's nuclear program advanced steadily through the 1990s, despite unilateral u.s. sanctions. when the bush administration took office, iran had no centrifuges. the machines necessary to produce material for a bomb that were spinning to enrich uranium. but despite repeated warnings from the united states government, by the time i took office, iran had installed several thousand centrifuges and showed no inclination to slow, much less halt its program. among u.s. policymakers there has never been disagreement on the danger posed by an iranian nuclear bomb. democrats and republicans alike have recognized that it would spark an arms race in the world's most unstable region and turn every crisis into a potential nuclear showdown. it would embolden terrorist groups like hezbollah, and impose an unacceptable risk to israel which iranian leaders have repeatedly threatened to destroy. more broadly it, could unravel the global commitment to non-proliferation that the world has done so much to defend. the question then is no

iran, which saw its strategic position strengthened by the removal of its long-standing enemy, saddam hussein. i raise this recent history because now more than ever we need clear thinking in our foreign policy. and i raise this history because it bears directly on how we respond to the iranian nuclear program. that program has been around for decades, dating back to the shah's efforts -- with u.s. support -- in the 1960s and '70s to develop nuclear power. the power -- the theocracy that overthrew the shah accelerated the program after the iran-iraq war in the 1980s, a war in which saddam hussein used chemical weapons to brutal effect, and iran's nuclear program advanced steadily through the 1990s, despite unilateral u.s. sanctions. when the bush administration took office, iran had no centrifuges -- the machines necessary to produce material for a bomb -- that were spinning to enrich uranium. but despite repeated warnings from the united states government, by the time i took office, iran had installed several thousand centrifuges, and showed no inclination to slow -- much less halt -- its pr

hussein and he lived within his birth village. we occupied it early on in may of 2003. my soldiers swam in saddam's pool early on and had water in it. we all brought home some adjusting souvenirs from the home. i have bohemian crystal from mrs. hussein's cupboard. notice and mrs. russell's cupboard. we used it as an observation post. it'd taken two hits from j. and m. missiles, rearrange the furniture in the cabinetry quite a bit but it was overengineered in the structure still stood so we stay there. we did want the building to become a shrine to saddam later. i ordered it be constructed and propose to have salvage crews come in and take it apart by brick and use the material in salvage it out. that's one of the breaks. every brick in the home was a hand cut piece of italian marble the wealth and saddam's personal home was unbelievable and so one day as i walked by it was getting late at the mission and i knew we were going to be going home before too long. >> host: you talk about the crystal. what are the rules of taking something like that? >> guest: the rules largely where we gave specific inst

launched operation storm, the moment many say was the beginning of a long end to saddam hussein and his government. iraqis living in kuwait had to fleet, including this man and his family. >> there was none border left. when the bombardment started, the most important thing for us was to go back to safety. my children were young. i drove the car from kuwait to iraq. since that invasion iraq had a turbulent history, years of sanction between 1991 and 2003, followed by the u.s. invasion and occupation. a civil war between 2006 and 2008, and i.s.i.l. fighters taking over a third of the country. this man mourns the state of his country. >> life in iraq is a living mel. kuwait was better for us. no one bothered you there. and we keep our doors open due to security. >> it's a sentiment occupied by others that fled. >> when i returneded to iraq i was 12. i found a lifestyle gap between iraq and kuwait. i was shocked. the situation is deteriorating after all these years. in kuwait it's stable. >> in kuwait they remember the sacrifices of those that die. look across the border they hope the viol

. >> i'm saddam hussein saddam hussein. >> august is here. we are beginning the dog days of summer months. we will try to give you simple tips to beat the heat and negative side effects that can come with it. today's focus is summertime injuries. this means lots of fun outdoors but more opportunity to hurt yourself. an orthopedist is here to tell you house to enjoy the summer in a safe way. you say that you see more and more injuries come in during the summertime. why do you think that is? >> summer is a great time. everybody wants to be outside. >> what are some of the more common injuries you see. >> sprains, strains, fractures. gravity is there. in terms of falling off a bike or overuse injuries like running, weekend warriors are out there. they want to put the shoes on, run outside, whether it's soccer, football, basketball, those are the most common ones we see. >> running is a big one. what can people do to go out there and run as they want to but maybe prevent injury. >> i ran two new york marathons. stretch. run early in the morning,

which saw its strategic position strengthened by the removal of its long standing enemy saddam hussein. i raise this recent history because now, more than ever, we need clear thinking in our foreign policy. and i raise this history because it bears directly on how we respond to the iranian nuclear program. that program has been around for decades, dating back to the shah's efforts, with u.s. support, in the 1960s and '70s to develop nuclear power. the theocracy that overthrew the shah accelerated the program after the iran/iraq war in the 1980s, a war in which saddam hussein used chemical weapons to brutal effect. and iran's nuclear program advanced steadily through the 1990s, despite unilateral u.s. sanctions. when the bush administration took office iran had no centrifuges. the machines necessary to produce material for a bomb that was spinning to enrich uranium. but despite repeated warnings from the united states government, by the time i talk office iran had installed several thousand centrifuges and showed no inclination to slow, much less halt its program. among u.s. policymaker

i also don't buy the view that it was because saddam hussein tried to kill his father.i think there's a lot of crazy stuff out there. but i do think bush was radicalized by 9/11 and there's a clear link to the invasion. >> what is the connection between 9/11 and the invasion of iraq? >> just that it radicalized bush. i'm not saying that al qaeda/saddam stuff is fiction. but i do believe that bush himself was radicalized by the events of 9/11 and opted to go big and go big was to send a shock wave through the part of the world -- the phrase was used at the time, pardon the expression "drain the swamp." the swamp being these semi states that were providing shelter for groups like al qaeda. again, not're but that somehow by sending the shock wave you might move the region of the world in a more positive direction. >> we have time for one more question. kayla? >> just to broaden the conversation back to the decision to invade iraq. former u.n. secretary general kofi annan is that this was an illegal war, that it was a war of aggression also the nuremberg tribunal called the

i'll tell that you that taking out saddam hussein turned out to be a pretty good deal. who knows? then you're in back to the future. might as well make a movie out of it. >> make a movie out of it? taking out saddam was a pretty good deal? wasn't a pretty good deal for the 36,000 american casualties of the iraq war. it wasn't a pretty good deal for the 134,000 iraqi civilians who died or the 1.5 million iraqis displaced. and wasn't a good deal for the american taxpayers who have spent nearly $1.7 trillion so far. did jeb bush think we wouldn't notice this is not historical fiction? this is not nice try. but we still got you. ecial olymt five million athletes in 170 countries. the microsoft cloud allows us to immediately be able to access information, wherever we are. information for an athlete's medical care, or information to track their personal best. with microsoft cloud, we save millions of man hours, and that's time that we can invest in our athletes and changing the world. no sixth grader's ever sat with but your jansport backpack is permission to park it wherever you please

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got their hands on this batch of chemical weapons, they could have gotten it left over osama bi saddam hussein, and more the larger question, though, is really what happens next. given the obama policy that they don't want to get too deep involved in syria, it's unlikely that this incident is going to change the obama policy towards both isis or iraq or syria. we're looking probably at a continuation of u.s. air strikes, coalition air strikes, david against isis and both and i can be syria, and then continuing to work with partners on the ground, which so far has not had much of an effective with isis. >> more of the same isn't doing much. connor, thank you very much. i appreciate it. lori. >> well, scary stuff and then there's this. new dramatic video shows us more on the moment of impact when explosions rip through a warehouse, killing dozens of people. this is in northern china. a chinese firefighter who was trapped for 32 hours in the rub he will has now been found alive by rescuer workers. according to officials, 17 firefighters are among the 50 who have been killed in the explosion and 1

by the way we don't know where we would be right now if saddam hussein was still in the power. he was moving towards terrorism, i believe if we can you do have -- continues to have problems you don't know what he might , have done in terms of being part of the problem of terrorism. i think it's very difficult to say was it worthwhile. the decision was made, we did it, deal with it. we have to try to make it come out the best way we can. >> given your experience in iraq can you talk earlier about the growing conflict between shia and sunni and the increased influence now of iran. inside iraq, even militarily. do you see any possibility of reconciliation between the sunni and shia? gen. odierno: it is becoming more difficult by the day. i think there might be some alternative solutions that might have to come sometime in the future. where iraq may not look like he like it did in the past. we have to deal with isil first. and then we have to decide what it will look like afterwards. >> you talk about the -- possibilityof of partitioning? gen. odierno: i think that is for the regio

to disarm iraq, which would lead to the overthrow of saddam hussein by all means necessary. on capitol hill, reaction to the proposed resolution was mostly positive with a sprinkling of loud protests that the administration is way off course. here's nbc's lisa myers. >> >> reporter: today for the first time, congress' anti-war movement mobilized, launching an extraordinary broadside against the president. >> the president of the united states will lie to the american people in order to get us into this war. >> our moral authority will be shot. we are leading to international anarchy. any country at any time for any reason can attack another country. >> as you might imagine, he voted against the invasion of iraq in 2002. he voted no with an exclamation point. but it has been his economic message. it's been his message that corporations and the banks and the wealthy are piling up too much power and influence. the political system is rigged in favor of the wealthy. it's that economic message that he espoused when he was just the mayor of burlington, vermont, doing c-span call-i

they're not telling us the truth, just like they did when they said saddam hussein had wmds. we want leaders that tell our good citizens the truth. that is the third, the vision for the future. i want to work hard to end these ons that having going too along. we need people to get in there like president obama with the iran nuclear deal to say we can work with the russians to put this together. we can work with the iranians to put this together. we can work with the chinese to put this together. that is what we did in the iran nuclear deal. all the republicans are opposed to that. we cannot have them come back and break up the middle east to cause our future generations more problems. those are the reason that i am running. -- those are the reasons i'm running. look at my record, all through my public career over three decades i've never had any scandals. the highest ethical standards, which if you look at my record, which i incurred you to do, you will never see any ethical scandals or issues. courageous votes time and time again, especially the iraq vote under enormous pres

when saddam hussein had invaded kuwait. you did not support air attacks after chemical attacks in syria, you did support the initial invasion into afghanistan, so, can you tell me what your criteria is for the use of force sf. >> yes, good question, a fair question, look, i think historically, in too many instances, the united states has gone to war often unilaterally when we should have, i think my vote against the first war in the gulf region was the right vote, i think we could have gotten saddam hussein out of kuwait that did not require a war. >> even though he had invaded kuwait? >> but, the point was, you had the whole world united against him, martha, do we need to go to war in every instances? look, i'm supporting president obama's effort to make certain that iron does not get a nuclear weapon. i get very nervous about my republican friends who keep implying that's the only way we could do that is through war. war is the last resort not the first resort. there are times when you have to use force, no question about

all the weapons from saddam hussein in iraq, a secret stockpile from syrian president bashar al assadyed in 2014 under an international agreement or did isis manufacture the agent on its own? president obama once threatened military action if the syrian regime used chemical weapons. >> a red line for us is we start seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving around or being utilized. >> reporter: now that it's isis, what will the obama administration do. >> i think it's very important for us to send a signal not only to the kurds but to isis as well that we are going to support the kurds in any way that we conceivably can. >> reporter: barbara starr, cnn, the pentagon. >> kim dozier and bob baer are with us to talk about how significant this is. kim, you were reminded in that barbara starr piece that president obama, not that long ago, threatened a u.s. strike on syria if the assad regime used chemical weapons. ultimately we didn't see that strike. but if there is a confirmed link here, does that cross the line for the obama administration? >> with the mustard agent, the implicati

. >> a former officer under saddam hussein played an instrumental role. that was a big victory for the group, highlighting the iraqi army's inability or unwillingness to defend the city. isil began setting its sights on baghdad. his death won't halt isil's advance nor diminish its authority. the group remains deeply entrenched where it controls all aspects of life. >> joshua walker says despite the death, the u.s. has no long term strategy to defeat isil. >> this is a question, nobody knows how many deputies there are. there is only one top man, he has a price on his head. the fact that the white house released the name, we are making a statement like we were today from the white house, that's significant. but in terms of the operational capabilities as we have heard, it's hard to judge. it's a blow. it's part of the larger war in terms of being able to win the hearts and minds, to give confidence in the united states and the coalition's ability to defeat isil. the long-term strategy is still to be determined. the challenge has been who are we backing on

when they overthrew the shah it accelerated the program in the 1980s, a war in which saddam hussein used chemical weapons to brutal effect and iran's nuclear program advanced steadily through the 1990s, despite unilateral u.s. sanctions. when the bush administration took office iran had no centrifuges. the machines necessary to produce material for a bomb that were spinning to enrich uranium. but despite repeated warnings from the united states government, by the time i took office iran had installed several thousand centrifuges and showed no inclination to slow, much less halt its program. among u.s. policy makers there's never been disagreement on the danger posed by an iranian nuclear bomb. democrats and republicans alike have recognized that it would spark an arms race in the world's most unstable region and turn every crisis into a potential nuclear showdown. it would embolden terrorist groups like hezbollah, and pose an unacceptable risk to israel which iranian leaders have repeatedly threatened to destroy. more broadly, it could unravel the global commitment to nonproliferation th

. >> saddam hussein spent time in a u.s. prison. played a strong role in the capture of mosul, iraq's second largest city. i.s.i.l. then began consolidating its power across northern iraq and setting its sights on baghdad. his death won't necessarily halt i.s.i.l.'s advance nor diminish its authority in the area of controls. the group remains deeply entrenched in mosul where it controls most aspects of life. >> zeina khodr sent us this update from baghdad. >> reporter: i've been speaking with iraqis who have contacts inside mosul. what they have been telling me is their contacts inform them that i.s.i.l. did indeed lose a high ranking official. a high ranking official has been killed but they still cannot confirm who. now, what we understand is that was a high ranking member of the council and in charge of the iraq's military operations in iraq. so if indeed it was confirmed that he was killed, it will be a blow to the operation. we also have to remember that i.s.i.l. is really a predecessor of al qaeda in iraq. most of the leadersh

he is saying we got saddam hussein out. not a fan of saddam hussein, but he ran the place, and he had no weapons of mass destruction. now, instead of saddam hussein we are far more brutal. we have isis. we will have iran. they are already making deals. the leaders of iraq are visiting the leaders of iran. what do we get out of this? we have stupid leadership. [applause] i didn't to want to go in but i was right. it was bad. they were bombing stuff. at some point we have to go out. we have to rebuild this country. we have to rebuild our country. we have to. our bridges are falling apart. our roads are a mess. our schools, our highways. everything. who is better at infrastructure than trump? they talked about the surge. bush's brother said the war is over. we've taken over. two days later the was a disaster. obama said that with yemen. he announced yemen was a victory. then three months later it was a disaster. we don't have yemen. we don't have anything. we send over to our allies, if you call them that, there's no word for

it's not likely that saddam hussein will give up his weapons." but back then, most members of congress believed saddam hussein had weapons of mass destruction in both parties. so in fact, hillary clinton was quote for invieding iraq before she was against it too, shannon. >> yeah. we remember. carl, thank you. good to see you. >>> coming up later in the show, my one-on-one with governor walker. we're going to talk more about his health care plan that carl outlined and also his presidential campaign. >>> with the scandal-plagued campaign that looks less and less like a sure thing every day, hillary clinton is trying to turn around her fortunes tonight in las vegas. in fact, both clinton and her main rival are in sin city trying to convince democrats that theirs is the safest roll of the dice for the party. chief white house correspondent ed henry is also in vegas tonight. >> reporter: on the eve of her summer vacation in the hamptons, hillary clinton tried to stay focused on her middle class message at a town hall in las vegas while continuing to

a former officer under saddam hussein who served in an u.s.ran prison, he played a role in the capture of mosul. while his death is undoubtedly a blow to isil, the group seems to be prepared for such eventuallities. >> isil is a secretive organization, but intelligence gathered over the years indicate that the group's power is not centralized. member leaders have a formal command structure, which proved to be a weakness. they're believed to have created a system that gives leaders flexibility so that overall operations are not affected if top official is killed. >>> on the ground the coalition and it's local partners have few successes to claim. it has been over a year, and isil remains deeply entrenched in mosul, where it controls all aspects of life. there are those that the u.s. has no long-term strategy. >> the challenge has been who are we backing on the ground. >> in iraq iranian-backed militias are leading the fight in mainly sunni areas. opposition from some politicians in baghdad to the arming of sunnies has increased sectarian tensio

a former officer under saddam hussein, who served in the u.s., he played an instrumental roll in the capture of mosul. his growth is a blow to i.s.i.l. the group should be prepared for event utilities. i.s.i.l. is a secretive organization. intelligence indicates that group power is not centralized. many were leaders of al qaeda and iraq. it had a four-command structure, proving to be a weakness. i.s.i.l. leaders learnt from that experience. it created a system that gives leaders flexibility. operations are not there if officials are killed. it's been over a year. i.s.i.l. is deeply entrenched in mosul, where it controls all aspects of life. there are those that believe despite the death, there's no long-term strategy. the challenge is who are we backing. there's a larger issue in terms of having a regional solution. >> in iraq, militias are leading the fight in sunni-arab careers. opposition from baghdad to the sunnis increased sectarian tensions. the reconciliation allowed i.s.i.l. to capture another capital in may. a council offensive made little progress. it may be a short-term se

saddam hussein did have some limited quantities of chemical weapons in the invasion of 2003. possible that isis, you know, obtained some of the stockpiles and possible out of territory they conquered from the assad regime in syria. it's possible they have compounded it themselves. if you take a western-trained chemist with a modern laboratory, it is not that difficult to compound. germans using industrial quantities 100 years ago in world war i. chemically, this isn't that difficult to do so. so my real fear is they have developed and or imported the technology to compound mustard gas themselves and pretty easy once they have reached that state to just put it on a rocket and send it down range. this is going to be a very difficult problem for us to deal with given that our strategy to have the kurds, the iraqi security forces and possibly the turks take the lead of isis. the they're tossing chemical weapons we have to enable to them to counter that problem. >> certainly. and it goes again to the problem of thinking about what any kind of ground game looks like and the fact th

it's believed the gas came from either the leftover saddam hussein regime or was brought over from syria. >>> now the scene in northern china after two fiery explosions at one of the world's largest ports. scouring the smoldering rubble have pulled a firefighter to safety. dozens still missing. at least 50 are missing. abc's bob woodruff has the latest. >> reporter: new video showing the massive blast lighting up the night sky. shot by an american, running for his life. >> let's go! >> reporter: the view from above shows fires still burning, row upon row burned out cars. there's still smoke. it's still burning. whole buildings now reduced to twisted metal. this is people's homes. here's the fan in their room. we passed exhausted firefighters. er is. ing for the dozens of people still missing. more than 50 are dead and 700 wounded. the blast sending neighbors into the streets in just nightgowns. an american watching from his window. >> the big one hit and i thought the whole building was coming down. >> reporter: the force is strong as 21 tons of tnt. long lines of people wait for clothes

of backing saddam hussein during the iran-iraq war. in 1988 the u.s.s. vin sens shots on iran air passenger jet off the coast, killing 290 people. the u.s. never formally apologised for the attack. despite all the bad blood over the years, most iranians we talked to say they like americans. just not american foreign policy. >> i like america. i like american muscle cars. i don't hate america. many years passed since the revolution, the current people you see, 40 years, they have no memory of the shah's regime. they don't have the a memory of americans doing bad things in iran. and now we have the nuclear negotiations. this is an opportunity for the west. snoop now that a deal on the programme is in place with the u.s. and other world powers, some hope it signals a new direction in hostility. it won't happen overnight. >> in 2003, i had a chance to work as a journalist in my father's native land of iran. >> a demonstrator was killed. many felt their voices were not heard. people ask where are you fro. >> i rarely say america. i was in my home on january 3