david: your first time in real combat is when saddam hussein invades kuwait.you got into kuwait relatively quickly, were you surprised at how relatively speaking easy it was to get there? gen. mattis: it was a lot of training and a lot of fire support. i am very proud of that campaign because it was the last time i brought everyone home alive. ♪ ♪ david: when you started your life, you started in the northwest, washington state, and you were a great athlete or a great student, which would you say? gen. mattis: none of the above. [laughter] david: you were a little bit wild, and you would do things that today i would think parents would not let kids do. when you were 13, your parents would let you hitchhike around the west, is that right? gen. mattis: i maintained a degree of silence about some of my activities around my parents. [laughter] but yeah, i did start to hitchhike. i think it was a more trusting nation in those days. my parents were rather adventurous. they weren't irresponsible, and had they known some of this, they probably would've put the kibosh

you made me work on a program in the eighty's about thatcher's support for saddam hussein what is it like actually personally given that you came under pressure for that channel of our program because he was an ally of britain and then over the air if it switches mattered for folks we would join for cham for if you remember or serve the architecture of fear and we were it was an ultra political program showing those who built these giant danticat monumental statues of a model from so the old arms went like this and dominate. especially in the military or. areas the parade grounds and we were doing a critical piece of this and we came under a lot of pressure not to do it i remember. when you or someone else researching that program rack up the company in basingstoke in an area in england. which did it for baddies big arms made created them and then shipped the monster but it's out of this and why ain't trying this it's affrightedly. so many of us who are pro critical of. when he was actually involved. what then attacked for opposing a iraq war you live in a strange world priorities ar

that than iraq's neighbor that, by the way, had just fought a devastating eight-year war with saddam hussein? no one was more concerned about saddam's ambitions of wmd than iran was. after khomeini had died, do we continue to maintain the strict islamic stricture against research and development of a nuclear program or do we say, okay, look, we're not going to build a bomb but get as close as we can to that, build the technology that might make saddam hussein think twice before developing a nuclear weapon or unleashing it against us. that was the calculation that they made. iran's nuclear program in the 1990s, therefore, was brought out of the moth balls and reinvigorated but it was largely rudimentary. in the 1990s, it's something that's tha to this day has been uninclusive, to what degree was it r & d and first generation centrifuges and to what extent was it something more than that? it's an open question. but one of the most interesting things about what happened in the 1990s, right, is how was iran going to build a nuclear program? it was easy in the '70s. picked up the phone to washing

the neighbor who just fought a devastating eight-year war with saddam hussein. no one was more concerned about saddam's ambitions when it came to wmd's than iran. iran had a moral concept in the 1990's to continue to maintain the islamic -- stricter against research and development of a nuclear program, or to not build a bomb, but get as close as they can. build the technology that might make saddam hussein think twice before developing a nuclear weapon or unleashing it. that was the calculation they made. iran's nuclear program in the 1990's was brought out of the mothballs and reinvigorated. it was largely rudimentary. the possible military dimensions of that in the 1990's has been something an conclusive, and one of the major issues. to what degree was it just research and development and basic first generation centrifuges? to what extent was it more? it is an open question. one of the most interesting things about what happened in the 1990's is how was iran going to build a nuclear program? it was easy in the 70's, pick up the phone to washington and you got

there are more tools now in a place like iraq under saddam hussein it was a dictatorship. there wasn't as much open space for people to produce change and i think the theory that was behind the iraq war in 2003, and we don't want to go back and debate that, but the theory was flawed in that simply if we just topple regimes and eliminate or decapitate the top, then some of freedom will spread. we know that didn't happen. i think wide accelerated in the islamic state in particular is that you had multiple fights going on inside of iraq, civil war first, and then a system of governance that simply wasn't responding. that's the main point is as conditions are still there. iraqis are still look at their national government as come with a caretaker government. >> carol, i would challenge the notion the islamic state was all that new because if they go back in history there's any number of millennial movements, whether it was the seizure of the grand mosque in 1979 or go back a century before that. what if you want to draw out from what brian was talked about and it's a number su

and then to live under saddam hussein. >> they know what is going around in a fall for it and with those thinkers they know what is going on and ultimately that's what religion does for them and religion is a tool and in terms of the power struggle. >> and time to time that is that have any value? is that something the west should be encouraging. >> it is an organic process i think we need to play a role in that and certainly right now we have a candidate and his mom hates that but he use that interpretation which is quite dangerous with those constituencies here deeply unhelpful i won't have a comparison are parallel between the two but when the us says things like a point special envoys anywhere from irrelevant to may be slightly unhelpful because i don't think it should be us policy to encourage reform of his lawn. for those extremist and more reformist and plays out although my friends that live here in america or europe with their own faith and religion and i would stay away from the use of engagement. when president obama spoke that a lot of my friends in the arab world found offen

there are more tools in a place like iraq under saddam hussein they were a dictatorship, there was notmuch open space for people to produce change. i think the theory behind the iraq war in 2003, we don't want to go back a debate that but the theory was flawed and simply if we topple regimes and eliminate or decapitate the top then somehow freedom would spread and we know that to not happen and i think wide accelerated in the islamic state particular is that you had a multiple fight going on inside of iraq, the civil war and then a system of governance that was not responding and that is the main point, those conditions are still there, i rockies are still looking at the national government with a caretaker government. >> i would challenge the notion that the islamic state was all that new, if we go back in history there's any number of millennial movements whether the seizure of the grand mosque in 1979 or go back a century before that but i want to draw out, there's any numbers of issues on governance, beyond simply this, the monarchy versus republicans and so forth, what does this m

an iraq war veteran who treated saddam hussein while serving in iraq. we watch new york closely because it serves as a warning to other states. but when you have the governor telling people, call this number. we'll pay you top dollar for ventilators and other supplies, how far are we right now from getting ahead of this pandemic? >> chris, it's so nice to be with you. this is just beyond chilling. and infuriating. i'm just going to be blunt. we need a public health investment into this problem. people are dying left, right and center. this virus is not discriminating by age, ethnicity, race. what we need is an investment in terms of understanding the scope -- the true scope of this problem. we need to identify asymptomatic carriers we know can infect people. we need to do contact tracing surveillance to really understand what's going on. but in addition to that, chris, we also need to be thinking two, three steps ahead. we're still talking about ppe justifiably because we have such a shortage. but we need to be thinking, about if we're talking about ven

born after the 1991 war which means no one has functional memory of what life was like under saddam hussein among the broad swath of the youth. therefore, they are no longer willing to accept what we might have problems from some of the islamist groups but at least we're not saddam hussein. people are looking at this generation which seceded many of these other ideologues and dictators in the region in saying is that the represent us. we have in the united states as much as we complain about politics, usually a 90-95% incumbency rate in congress. in places like iraq it's around 12-16%. people are adrift and that makes it a dangerous moment. >> sobriety, he wrote about governance. the form of governance that has evolved been imposed on iraq saddam was overthrown, is it working? do you see it working? dead iraqis have to come up with something else? doesn't try to have to help iraq come up with something else? >> great question and i'll answer that in the second. i first want to highlight the subtitle of the book is what really causes instability in the middle east, and my simple after spendi

tweets today, she's comparing, you know, living under the stay-at-home orders to living under saddam husseinn iraq. >> gee, i wonder why. i wonder why. who's been saying that he's against the stay-at-home orders, all of a sudden? the great healer, president trump, is telling people to liberate states from stay-at-home orders, and he is throwing the second amendment in there, too, for a little bit more red meat. that's why they're doing it, oliver. i mean, it's just so painfully obvious. i just hope it's worth it to them on some level. go ahead. >> what i want to know is we hear all this noise about fox news taking this virus seriously. they put out a whole bunch of public service announcements featuring their anchors. but where are the executives like suzanne scott or even lochlin murdock when one of their anchors is, again, saying or suggesting that staying at home is equivalent to living under saddam hussein. and asking when we are going to liberate states. where are they? >> quiet, apparently. oliver darcy, thank you for being loud and proud about this. we've got to expose it. everything'

moved other creation of another reality digital cell or cause to come into the possession of saddam hussein weapons of mass destruction did the united states sell to him absolutely not. iran iraq was on such a scale and i was on the iranian side and i went down to the battlefield i was actually given a gasket and so let me take the train back right away up to town and the carriages with crimes with iranian soldiers had been gassed someone just cause aggression and one man who has read. if so he put a handkerchief and white blood on his lips. gradually cargoes became permeated with this sort of 36 mile and i realized it was the smell of the gas they were coughing up from the lungs i was going around the car has no windows and my tears trying to clean the train out of the smell of obviously chemical warfare. after 2003 i was being attacked on radio shows especially from america you know complaining about the american invasion or you proceed and i said excuse me i was on the train of iranians gassed by the iraqis and the chemical components came from the united states at the very time that you

general schwarzkopf a graduate of west point allowed saddam hussein to retain some of his helicopters. use those helicopters to drop chemical weapons on the kurds. they were great allies of the united states all along. because general swarts cough, these are his words not mine, they were snookered by the iraqis they were able to continue to do to their people what they were doing prior to their involvement in kuwait. nothing really changed. they just expelled from kuwait. and, interestingly enough, when the administration in 2003 argued to go into iraq, that use the fact that saddam hussein was not adhering to the agreements from which you was to adhere to during the first erect skirmish. that led to the second one. so i suppose that is something we could look at we might call that a positive, but look to what it led? >> host: set my advent tactical not strategic. >> guest: yes i think we forgot to mention grandma and panama something worth the size of martha's vineyard and said it's worth invading. those have been our successes, our military successes in the last 75 years. >> guest:

my family whose family is freedom fighters those who fought against saddam hussein and so i was born in the mountains while my parents were actually fighting against the regime and my connection with nature in the mountains goes that long and knife so that as i grew up there my parents fought for the mountains but now there is nothing to see on the mountains so i am striving to life back again on the mountain. for years now has been negotiating with iraqi on. a protected area in. her efforts seem to have paid off. $2300.00 hectares of mountainous terrain are to be designated a nature reserve for the leopards. the locals have to be convinced as well years of unrest have forced people to leave so there aren't many left and the younger generation often look for jobs in the big cities. but i'm mohammad sali stayed. a. while but for me the leopard is a kind of natural heritage i'd like to see more of them in these mountains. the new nature reserve is also meant to attract tourists a much needed source of income. a tourist lodges currently being built with the support of the international

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it's the same way they got saddam hussein. ( saddam ) "oh, wow! is that a helicopter? i wanna see! the bunker! open the bunker! all right, that's it for "ray of sunshine." let's catch up on today's headlines. first up, yesterday the united states hit a grim milestone in the fight against coronavirus when it surpassed one million confirmed cases, and more than 58,000 deaths, which is more than the total number of americans who died in vietnam. and these numbers are a long way from late february. you remember when pump said america's coronavirus cases would go from 15 down to zero in a couple of days. in fact, trump was asked yesterday how he squares that comment with our current reality. and this is what he said. >> reporter: back in late february, you predicted that the number of cases would go down to zero. how did we get from your prediction of zero to one million? >> well, it will go down to zero, ultimately. and you have to understand, when it comes to cases, we do much more testing than anybody else. we're going to show more cases because we're doing much, much more testing, d

the same household so seldom is just great to get your perspective as to appreciate that's and saddam hussein there talking to us from bradford in england thank you negate. now let's bring out of this a current of rise building with a brighter story and an experience shared around the world the view of what's called a supermoon that is likely to be visible till thursday all about us as a story. under lockdown in normally bustling new delhi birds sing out in deserted streets. there is no one in greece is tourist hot spots . the. only prayer echoes across riyadh people are staying harm but if we look up nearly 8000000000 of us can share in something else a superman is above us rising on tuesday evening and is expected to be the brightest and biggest of the year in china restrictions of east and a reduction in pollution means my sucking up what are the fate in the end it's really hard to see i'm in this big in beijing it's been my 1st time saying one source anger for families and that the epidemic situation in china is getting better and better this represents something good especially on the su

only dealing in the muslim world as a little book you sit around and stuff it and ship them saddam hussein was the. human activity has brought us to the brink of the world's 6th major extinction of it and the people in this film just come take it anymore. style demands is to put on a chain young enough to cut you a little spot that's them. up at your. home with nothing to do and that i desired to know. how much older the. local just a little earlier that i was going to dump she still lives. me up on the show was terrible i. used to move push it. puts. you put it's not just on thoughts almost unusable not more than a little not so we started it reached. over. to. and welcome back markets here in the u.s. are in the green tuesday continuing the mostly upward trend we have seen over the last week so i don't wanna waste a time here and let's get right to the details about the status of markets with shawn hyman editor of the logical investor co-host christi i would welcome her back now kristie you called me bad luck bright yesterday but tell us what's going on in the markets today i go there up

it is a in many countries there is saddam hussein, all the other people against him because they were against gadhafi and then somebody like this happens and we don't know where to put her. could this give you any insight into why things like that happen? >> no, but it made me realize the interesting theory was that zone that became a psychological problem to understand how it was navigated and i purposely chose people i couldn't come to a final conclusion about with a good or bad. they were people that defined my attempt. i would welcome other people in that regard. that is what interested me and it ended up in the book even after spending how many hours with them over hours and months and years i still couldn't put them in the box are they doing something noble or are they to be commended were criticized. it was important with the experience of the characters itself. it didn't allow me to reach a kind of conclusive position. >> before we get deeper into this they want to outline food he or she is? >> i will read a little bit from the prologue. at the start of 2012, i moved back to w

don't know why if you look at tweets today she's comparing living under the stay at home order to saddam hussein in iraq. >> i wonder why. who has been saying that he's against the stay at home orders all of a sudden? the great healer is steling people to liberate states from stay at home orders and throwing the second amendment there for red meat. it's just so painfully obvious. i hope it's worth it to them. it's destructive. >> i want to know is where is fox -- we hear this noise about fox news taking a virus seriously and put out a bunch of public service announcements featuring anchors. where are the executives when an anchor is again saying or suggesting that staying at home is equal to living under hue sane. and asking when we're going to liberate states? where are they? >> quiet. apparently. oliver, thank you for being loud and proud about this. we have to expose it. everything is different now in the pandemic age. everything should be reassessed. all the e agenda should be bare and the media should be reappraised as well. thank you. be well. >> thank you. >> all right. i keep bringing us