but also with sadiq khan, i think there's something slightly more ephemeral, intangible about being a good or a bad mayor. and khanis being a good or a bad mayor. and khan is so controversial he has failed to bring one of the world's great cities together. there are an awful lot of people who feel he's a divisive character. he often seems bad tempered, high handed, with certain interviewers and so on and in various. do you want to meet this? no, no no no, he's not a warm guy and he's focusing constantly on this kind of diversity thing. >> yet at the same time, arguably you've got these marches going on every week under his watch and also really quite unnecessarily aggressive rhetoric towards donald trump, which obviously not surprising that he feels that way, but it seems unnecessary, i think, as the mayor of a of a what do you think about that, i suppose? >> well, you know, diplomacy is important. i mean, the mayoral title, it's interesting. he's not a fun guy, like at least bofis not a fun guy, like at least boris johnson. i don't think he was a good pm, but he was a good mayor. he was a great, fun mayor. >> unfort