today. >> matt schlapp portrayed kelly sadler as a little bit of a victim here.> again, the matter is going to be addressed -- has been addressed internally, what i will say, is that when you work in any work environment, you with your colleagues at nbc, or elsewhere, if you aren't in internal meetings to speak your mind without feeling like your colleagues will betray you, that's a difficult work environment. >> is there any environment where that would be viewed as appropriate? >> i'm not going so address it any further. >> you said it was dealt with. has it been dealt with since last week? >> she called the mccain family, i'm not going to address it any more. >> it's been reported you were leading the meeting where kelly sadler said what she said. how did it strike you, did you find it to be inappropriate? and how did -- what was the reaction of -- >> this is not about my opinion or anyone else's opinion. it's an internal matter, and we've addressed it internally. >> two questions. first, the white house is hosting some kind of meeting on wednesday with, calif

it's reported that you led the meeting where kelly sadler said what she said. how did it strike you? did you find it inappropriate? what was the reaction in the room? >> this is not about my opinion. this is an internal matter. we addressed it internally. >> two questions. first, the white house hosting some kind of meeting on wednesday with california officials on sanction ware cities -- sanctuary cities. can you tell us what that is about? will the president attend? what is the point of the meeting? >> i can't get ahead of the meeting. look, the department of justice is engaged in certain litigation regarding sanctuary cities in california. we believe that california should help us and all municipalities and state should help the federal government in enforcing federal law and helping to deport when appropriate criminal illegal immigrants and help stem the tide of, you know, illegal immigration in the united states. it's on the rise now. point of frustration for the president, for the administration. so that will be part of obviously what is discussed. >> so

they're defending sadler. a source familiar says that she said i stand with kelly sadler. and that same report claims that press secretary sarah huckabee handers is ha sanders with the leak. they say this is unlikely to be lost on her. nbc's jeff bennett joins me from the white house with the latest. jeff, hope me with the strategy here. there is the comment reprehensible as it was. the white house choosing not to engage on that. it was first reported by the news service. highlighting the naktfact that leak occurred. what are sources telling you about why the white house won't apologize for what was a pretty egregio egregious remark? >> i think it is instructive to reset a bit and look at the book ends. the week ban with malania trump releasing a campaign to encourage kids to put kindness first in their lives and ending with the white house digging in heels over this crass remark of a communications staffer made about john mccain. now to your question, a source familiar says the white house has been reluctant to punish kelly sadler or maybe a public apology in part because

her name is kelly sadler. she reportedly joked that there's no need to worry about mccain's opposition to the cia director nominee because mccain is, quote, dying anyway. and it's not just heard. you just heard a moment ago a fox news commentator boasting that torture worked on senator john mccain. that commentator referred to mccain as song bird john. so let me remind you about this song bird in question. john mccain say third generation military man who graduated from one of president trump's favorite military institutions, the naval academy in 1958. while flying his 23rd mission in the vietnam war, his bomber jet was shot down. he was able to eject from the plane but broke both his arms and a leg in the process. senator mccain landed in a lake wearing 50 pounds of gear and he sank to the bottom. he was only able to escape drowning by using his teeth to pull an inflatable life preserver. mccain was pulled out of the lake by a group of people who then beat, kicked, and stabbed him multiple times. only then wa

do you think kelly sadler should be fired? do you think considering what we've heard donald trump say about john mccain that it just creates a very different situation here? >> of course kelly sadler should be fired. and by the way, for anybody that wants to give kelly sadler their opinion, it's @kellysadler45 on twitter. look, in any other white house, he would be fired and at the very least suspended from her job. what she said is offensive and hurtful. there are so many americans today who are facing their own mortality, faces down terminal illnesses or who have loved ones who are. the john mccain i know doesn't give a damn about what kelly sadler says. this doesn't make a dent on him, but i can only think about how this makes people like cindy mccain, like their seven children feel, his five grandchildren, his 105-year-old mother, roberta. it's got to be incredibly hurtful to be dealing with the illness of somebody you love so much and at the same time hear some kook on fox business take a shot at him about torture. and th

sadler meant it as a joke. the joke fell flat. sadler runs communications at the white house. >> the white house said we respect senator mccain's service to the country. the source says sadler called meghan mccain to apologize. it is unclear how mccain responded. his wife responded, my husband has a family, seven children and five grandchildren. >> john mccain urged senators to reject gina haspel after she declined to say torture is immoral. this after the fox commentator general thomas mcinerney. >> he will not endorse haspel and in part because she believes in torture. she thinks it works. >> john mccain. it worked on john. that is why they call him song bird john. >> they did not call him that. also no evidence torture got mccain to betray the country. he later tweeted an apology saying he missed the remark in the moment, but would have challenged it. >> a spokesperson for fox says he will no longer appear on fox news. on a more positive note, senator graham visited mccain in arizona. he said mccain is getting stronger. there i

but not kelly sadler.e promised the senator's daughter last week that she would apologize publically and she has not done it. so it is very clear who is managing the white house response to the kelly sadlercomments about john mccain. here's the white house press briefing today. >> why not just apologize so america doesn't think that is an acceptable way of speaking inside this white house? >> i understand the focus on the issue but it's going to be dealt with, and has been dealt with internally. >> can you explain how it's been addressed internally. >> if i explain all that, it won't remain internal. >> i can explain it, you can explain it. anyone who's been watching donald trump can explain it. donald trump is obviously personally managing this controversy in the white house and he is forbidding kelly sadler from publically apologizing to john mccain and he is forbidding john kelly from firing kelly sadler and forbidding john kelly from standing with the american hero john mccain and publically condemning

they knew it was a kill shot on sadler. they knew how ugly this is about the administration. >> thank you both very much. >> ahead on "new day", we will be talking live with former defense secretary ash carter. this is a big get. you cannot ask for a better mind and more experience when it comes to talking about what we're dealing with with foreign policy right now. he's going to tell us what he thinks about what's going on in iran, what he thinks is next with israel and iran, what getting out of that deal means. this will be something worth watching. >>> more rudy guiliani news. he resigned from his former law firm. was the attorney forced out? why the sudden resignation? we have the answers next. the closer you get to home, the more you know the commute is worth it. you and that john deere tractor... you can keep dreaming up projects all the way home. it's a longer drive. but just like a john deere, it's worth it. anyone can get you ready, holiday inn express gets you the readiest. because ready gives a pep talk. showtime

than what kelly sadler said. given the handling of the incident, take a look at the intersection between the white house deputy spokesperson hodeley gutly. listen to this interview on fox news. >> i didn't hear the comment. >> you heard it now. >> i can't say i was in the meeting. >> it sounds like she said it. was it kind? >> whether the comment was made, there are thing that is shouldn't be made public. >> reporter: we know, as you mentioned by the reporting from axios and our own reporting, that sarah huckabee sanders and like her smercedes said, megan her to apologize and sadler said she would. but she clearly hasn't. i reached out to megan mccain directly and she didn't want to share more than she said on "the view." heading into this coming week, keep an eye out for an apology and staffing changes in the white house. since the white house staffers came out with this comment -- >> what is the reaction to what has played out the last few days? >> reporter: the reaction across the board is we clearly have cros

i was told kelly sadler called the mccain family late last week and did apologize.ond that, i don't have further comment. >> excuse knee. but she -- kelly sadler told megan mccain that she would apologize publicly and that has not yet happened. why has that not happened. >> i wasn't on the call. i was told she made it prior to the story being published and she ai poll gupologized for the. >> is there any concern that this white house seems more concern about the fact that there was a leak about the content of what was said? >> i think we're concerned about all sorts of matters. but this is an internal matter. it is being addressed internally and i don't have anything further to add. >> can you explain how it is being addressed internally? >> obviously if it i explain all that then it won't remain internal. >> is she still an employee at the white house? >> she came to work today. >> why hasn't she publicly apologized as she told megan mccain that she would? >> she is addressed it with the family directly. i don't have anything further to add. >> on zte, how does the

. >> meghan mccain says white house aide kelly sadler said she would publicly apologize, but she has not done so. >> to an extraordinary display of unity at the cannes film festival where they pushed for gender equality. >> awkward. "early today" starts right now. >> good morning. i'm phillip mena. >> i'm frances rivera. we begin this morning with developing news out of jerusalem where the u.s. embassy is set to formally open in just hours. the american delegation was welcomed to israel overnight, greeted by prime minister benjamin netanyahu as fest tichlts are underway to honor the new embassy. ivanka trump, jared kushner and treasury secretary steven mnuchin and others all on hand for the celebrations as netanyahu lavished praise on president trump's decision to relocate the embassy. >> president trump is making history. we are deeply grateful and our people will be eternally grateful for his bold decision to recognize jerusalem as israel's capital and to move the embassy there tomorrow. [ applause ] >> but this morning jerusalem remains a city on edge with a wave of protests greet

an official tells cnn white staffer kelly sadler says he's dying anyway. the official says sadler meant it as a joke. the official said the joke fell flat. sadler runs surrogate communications at the white house. >> asked for a response, the white house says we respect mccain's certiservice to our na. the source says sadler called the senator's daughter meghan mccain to apologize. unclear how she stopped. the senator's wife tweeted may i remind you my husband has a family of seven children and five grandchildren. >> mccain did not back gina haspel after she said she would not say torture is immoral. and this report from fox news. >> and john mccain said he would not endorse haspel also and in part because she believes in torture and she thinks it works. >> john mccain. it worked on john. that is why they call him song bird john. >> that is just not true. s that-- that's conspiracy theo. john mccain did not go home when offered a chance to go home. he wanted to stay back with his fellow hostages. hostages. the host tweeted an apology to mccain and said he m

what do you make of the white house's handling of sadler's comments.ssue an apology or have sadler fired? >> it doesn't look like that will be happening. what stands out in terms of this overshadowing the narrative that the white house wanted. you are seeing the press secretary from the podium put her allegiance to the president ahead of what many other people would have done, which is say that these remarks were cruel, awful and disparaging. she, instead, tried to defend her team and her staff in the face of what was really indefensib indefensible. what we are seeing trump's enablers doing what we thought was unthinkable. you know, at any time we would have said that these comments should be denounced and a no brainer. apparently, today, that's not the case. >> yeah. very distressing, frankly. mulvaney, as you know, also addressed the issue of the leaks in the white house. here's what he said about that. >> what happened with the mccain comment yesterday or two days ago, i lose track of time, was different. it was a private meeting and the leak was de

she was standing by kelly sadler. sources are telling cnn communications aides inside the white house are largely more upset that this terrible joke leaked to the media that the fact it was said in the first place. they're worried that the leak has caused damage to the white house, has distracted from what they considered an otherwise successful week on the foreign policy front, and they're having to deal with bipartisan fallout from a joke against a true american hero. >> we heard the white house criticize the leak, but it wasn't all that long ago the president loved leaks. listen. >> this just came out. wikileaks, i love wikileaks. another one came in. wikileaks is like a treasure trove. i will tell you this, russia, if you're listening, i hope you're able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing. >> so isn't it a rlittle rich t say now they won't respond to news of a leak? >> it's awfully convenient. but the lack of a response goes to show how the president feels. he's showing his true colors by not even pretend

the controversial remark coming from white house aide kelly sadler.ler was reacting to mccain's opposition to trump's pick for the cia director when she dismissed his opposition and said, quote, he's dying anyway. a source said that sadler apologized to mccain's daughter, megan, but that did not keep megan mccain from saying this today. >> since my dad has been diagnosed, it's almost a year july 19th, i really feel like i understand the meaning of life and it is not how you die, it is how you live. and i don't understand what kind of environment you're work in when that would be acceptable and then you can come to work the next day and still have a job. and that's all i have to say about it. >> i guess the fish stinks from the head because it's easy to say something like that and not think that, ooh, that is a wrong headed comment to make out loud. you can think what you want but you don't say this kind of thing out loud. >> joining me now is hln host s.e. cupp. you just had an exclusive interview with the house speaker paul ryan and you talked about

well, this morning only after this has become public, sadler is apologizing. the administration is trying to clean up this mess, while not denying the comments were made or even apologizing with a white house statement. abby philip joins us outside the white house with more. no official apology from the white house, but condemnation from both sides of the aisle this morning in congress and among the american public. >> reporter: that's right. kelly sadler, a white house aide, is under fire this morning from both parties for her comments in a communications this week about john mccain. she was referring to mccain's opposition to president trump's cia nominee, gina haspel, in which sadler said that mccain's comments basically don't matter because he's dying anyway. the white house in response to these reports didn't deny sadler said that in this meeting but did issue this statement in response saying we respect senator mccain's service to our nation and he and his family are in our prayers during this difficult time. but you'll notice that in that statement, the

sadler? >> reporter: good to be with you, craig. meghan mccain said her father is doing pretty well now. people would like to naught into the context what we're been talking about given what is described as an offhanded remark you pointed out not denied by the white house. instead papering over it with a new statement where they simply say we respect senator mccain's service to our nation and he and his family are in our prayers during this difficult time. that is a basic, standard statement that one would offer, almost doesn't seem connected to these events, and yet that is what they are putting forward and so we've acknowledged that there. no indication that sadler would lose her employment, no indication she would individually offer an apology for that comment. the fact that the white house has not denied it speaks loudly. of course, it is a part of a long pattern of tension between president trump and john mccain over the time from his candidacy when he derisively said he had not been a hero. disputed health care, the law, mccai

kelly sadler set off a fire storm with an innocencive remark about john mccain. >> sadler was in a whiteouse meeting last week when john mccain's opposition to c.i.a. nominee gina haspel came up. according to a white house source sadler joked about the 81-year-old senator who's bat thing brain cancer who said it doesn't matter he's dying anyway. her comments were leaked to report snores who cares what john mccain thinks he's dying anyway. you have to admit that's poor taste. this wasn't isolated. trump and mccain have had beef for years now. during the campaign, mccain said trump was firing up the crazies, so trump fired back by dissing mccain for having been a prisoner of war. when trump became president, mccain killed his healthcare plan. even from the hospital, mccain trump and said trump wasn't invited to his funeral which is the highest level of dispossible to uninvite someone from something you technically won't be at. i won't be there but i don't want you anywhere. personally i want trump at my funeral because i know he would hate being at an event that wasn't about him. i can be

sadler's official title as a commissioned officer in the white house is the honorable kelly sadler. but the dishonor she has brought to the white house, to the president and the country with these comments is staggering. sadler reportedly said of senator john mccain, who is waging a valiant battle against cancer, quote, it doesn't matter. he's dying anyway. the context of those remarks, john mccain's refusal to support trump's cia nominee gina haspel over her support for the enhanced interrogation program. mccain, who was held as a prisoner of war and survived torture himself, was opposed to the program when it was revealed during the george w. bush presidency. but his moral compass and principle is unrecognizable to the men and women who work for the current occupant of the white house. the disgraceful comments could have emanated from the tone set by the guy who sits atop the chain of command. mccain is a frequent target of donald trump's. here is then candidate donald trump. >> he's a war hero because he was captured. i like people that weren't captured, okay? john mccain's daugh

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sadler reached out to senator mccain's daughter to apologize. the comment comes after repeated attacks by president trump himself. >> he's not a war hero. >> five and a half years -- >> he's a war hero because he was captured. i like people who weren't captured, i hate to tell you. >> exempt for one senator who came into the room at 3:00 in the morning and went like that, we would have had health care too. >> we're learning more about in fighting in the president's senior team. a source telling cnn president trump berated homeland security secretary kirjsten nielsen, complaining she wasn't doing enough to secure the border. >> we have the worst immigration laws in the history of mankind. we're slowly getting them changed. we want to get it quick. give me reinforcements please. >> reporter: the "new york times" reporting secretary nielsen told colleagues she was close to resigning after the argument and drafted a resignation letter. homeland security officials denying that report. president trump's chief of staff john kelly working to tamp down r

and not even an acknowledgment that kelly sadler made this remark about senator john mccain. and now to remind our viewers the context. she was at a communications meeting and when she discussed the john mccain's recent opinion about the cia nomination, kelly sadler said his opinion was irrelevant because he's dying any way. and senator mccain has incurable brain cancer. so she made the remark and it got released to the media and the white house more concerned with the fact the comment leaked than the fact that sadler made the remark like that about someone who served the united states in vietnam, someone who is a senator and someone who has brain cancer. the white house standing by kelly sadler, saying, yes, she still does work here and still does have a taxpayer-funded job and not acknowledging she made this remark. i'm not sure any p.r. company in the world would agree with this strategy. it seems quite easy to apologize for the remark to say that they've discussed this with her or anything like that. none of that is what we got in that briefing just there. instead, the wh

i was told that that doesn't necessarily mean that kelly sadler would be going. it's a broad reference to personal changes that could be coming down the pike. kelly sadler is at the white house and the white house says no personnel changing to announce. >> jon: when the president says leakers are traitors and cowards, that suggests you won't have a job long at the white house if they figure out who leaked this information. >> absolutely. how they figure out who leaked the information is what is up for debate and question at the white house. they're declining to say how they plan to find out who these people are. >> jon: thanks, franchesca. >> thanks. >> julie: fox news alert. clashes continuing along the gaza border as palestinians begin to bury the dozens killed during yesterday's protests. the white house said the world should be blaming hamas. the u.s. ambassador to the u.n., nikki haley speaking during an emergency u.n. security council meeting. listen. >> let's remember that the hamas terrorist organization has been inciting violence for years, long before t

if it was said, it was said by kelly sadler and she apologized. i think that is sufficient for her to call and give a private apology to the family. it was not a public statement. it should have never been leaked. and she was, in fact, doing her job, talking about vote counting. she made a matter of fact statement. i mean, that's all there is to it. i don't think she was joking about it. i don't know how you can make it into a joke. and i think it is shameful that anybody would go and leak something like this. it just shows that people are out for themselves and not about what's best for the country. >> i'm curious about that. what do you think it shows that this white house leaks so much, amy? >> i mean, i think it shows that people are out for themselves. they get attention. they leak for numerous reasons. i don't think it's helpful. i think it's shameful and whoever is doing it if they were caught i think they should be fired. i don't imagine it's helpful to your country. to be focussed on something like this is absolutely ridiculous and i thin

other white house officials are defending sadler, notably, mick mulvaney, the budget director, was on one of the early morning talk shows today, essentially saying that sadler has the right to be candid when she's in private, even if the joke was inappropriate, and that she should keep her job. that echoes what we're hearing from sources who indicate sadler will stay on in her current role. >> boris, rudy giuliani making headlines again today. trying to get on the same page with rudy giuliani. once again, he's backtracking. he said something pertaining to what the president did or didn't do. fill us in. >> yeah, it seems like it's another unforced error from rudy giuliani. he was speaking to the "headline prime" huffington post yesterday and weighing in on the comment to michael cohen from at&t to help grease the wheels in their attempted merger with time warner. giuliani was essentially saying there's no way that corporate money would influence the white house, saying that the president put his finger on the scale and intervened to try to keep that merger from happening. now, that co

sadler called john mccain's daughter to apologize. on friday, megan said she was surprised that sadler had not been fired. but the white house budget director said that sadler cannot be fired. >> i think the remarks are awful, but let's look at this in context. that was set in a private meeting inside of the white house. you might say something really nasty about me off of the air, and it doesn't have that much impact. but if you come on hair -- air and say it there, then that is a big problem. >> some are calling for a fire, do you think that is right? >> no i don't. >> that's my >> reporter: mccain's family has come to his defense and his wife tweeted to sadler and said may i remind you my husband has a family, seven children and five grandchildren. joe biden said he was wondering when indecency would hit rock bottom with this administration . this staffer is not the exception to the rule, but the epitome of it. at the press briefing yesterday, sarah sanders said she would not talk about a leak internal staff meeting. >>> several pe

one indication that sadler knew she had done something wrong. separate from that, another source close to the ongoing deliberations within the white house press shop said one of the reasons why the white house isn't taking steps to punish sadler or make her make any sort of public statement about any of this is that the president, as we know, has said far worse about john mccain. so it would set sort of a bad precedent internally in that regard. so all of that said, we're sort of seeing in realtime what the ongoing degradation of our political discourse looks like, alex. >> okay, jeff bennett from the white house. thank you, jeff. joining me now, jill colvin, white house reporter for the associated press, and erin mcpike, senior adviser. ladies, good sunday to you both. jill, why is the white house refusing to apologize, even as republicans are continuing with their criticism for this lack of a response? >> yeah, it's quite incredible to watch how this has unfolded and the fact that we're still talking about this at this point on a sunday, that

>> i do actually. >> sources tell cnn that kelly sadler's job is safe. white house spokesperson raj shaw reluctant to say more. >> it will be dealt with and dealt with internally. the matter has been internally. it is being addressed internally. >> is she being reprimanded? >> if i explain all that, it won't remain internal. >> the administration's stunning refusal to offer an apology has republican lawmakers frustrated. here is senator john kennedy. >> john miss sadler. i don't know if she is stupid or not. she made a bad decision. >> republican senator john conce conce cornwyn of texas said from the person who said that really dumb thing after demanding an apology. >>> and the u.s. opening the embassy in israel in jerusalem, protests along the gaza border turned deadly. opening fire on the palestinian protesters killing 59 and wounding thousands. >> israelis blame hamas for inciting terror attacks. we have cnn's ian lee. ian, it looks quiet behind you. what is expected today? >> reporter: dave, we're expecting protests to kick up around noon time local

let's go back to the story with john mccain and kelly sadler. you have nick mulvaney doing an interview saying this wasn't a public event it, happened behind closed doors, don't make a big deal out of it. and then you've got this leak, the five people talking about the axios meeting, sarah huckabee sanders not vociferously apologizing for what was said about john mccain. >> the president says apologies are signs of weakness. we heard that sarah huckabee sanders saying she's not going to talk about a leak. we've seen this from this administration, not focusing on the substantial but on the fact that it became leaked and became a public affairs problem for the white house. it not only sustainable to -- clearly not only allies of the president but opponents of the president said this is beyond the pale, you don't insult a war hero on his death bed and basically has a few more weeks or months to live. it not something you should be doing as a white house official. that's why this administration is really struggling to figure out how to contain the d

do you believe first of all that sadler should lose her job? >> she should not only be fired but if she had dignity, she would resign right away. at the same time this administration has zero dignity and respect both for other politicians or the american public in general. when you have a president that doesn't apologize for creating conspiracy theories about the first black president being born in a foreign country, who doesn't apologize for publicly talking about sexually harassing women, for basically making up lies about immigrants and god knows how many other americans, this is the type of standard that his own staff are taking so i'm not surprised. this administration has zero morals when it comes to holding up the dignity of the white house and the staff has followed the lead of the president. >> what does it tell you about the culture, the tone at the white house that sadler felt comfortable even making this joke. >> because it stems from the top. it tells you that you have an administration that does not understand the dignity that com

the white house showing no signs that sadler is going anywhere. but certainly, the criticism continues and continues to mount. and continues to raise real questions again about the tone within this administration. when you have a president who has not refrained from lashing out at some of his -- some of the people who he has challenged, whether it be on capitol hill or elsewhere, ali. >> it is kind of interesting. because this is one one of those things that good communications people can actually tachblt there are a lot of people saying acknowledge, apologize and move on. now it's become something different. kristen welker in the white house. in the last hour president trump unveiled a plan to tackle an issue since he talked about since the presidential campaign. that is the rising cost of prescription drugs. >> the american people deserve a health care system that takes care of them. not one that taxes and takes advantage of our patients and our consumers and our citizens. these reforms are just the beginning. >> okay. here's what the president

some now taking sadler's side. a person in the room telling us senior communications adviser mercedes schlapp said she "stood by kelly sadler," because she saw the leak as an attack. >> does she still have a job? >> i'm not going to comment on an internal staff meeting. >> reporter: sadler did privately apologize to mccain's daughter, meghan, but that was clearly not enough. >> i don't understand what kind of environment you're working in when that would be acceptable and then you can come to work the next day and still have a job. >> reporter: politicians outraged. mitt romney tweeting, "john mccain makes america great. those who mock such greatness only humiliate themselves and their silent accomplices." it was trump himself who famously attacked the republican senator. >> he's not a war hero. >> he's a war hero. five and a half years -- >> he's a war hero because he was captured. i like people that weren't captured. >> reporter: tonight, the white house also cleaning up comments made by president trump's lawyer,

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it comes after a white house aide kelly sadler dismissed mccain's lack of support for trump's new cia director pick. saying it doesn't matter, because and this was the aide saying this, he's, quote, dying anyway during a meeting on thursday. and now we are learning sanders privately scolded her team during a staff meeting on friday. not necessarily for the original tasteless comment, but for the fact that someone leaked that information. cnn's boris sanchez joining us live from the white house. what more are you learned? >> reporter: hi. despite the fact that sarah sanders hasn't criticized the public comments made by kelly sadler about mccain. in private, at least, among staffers, he's apparently called them inappropriate. one source indicates the nature of the meeting with the communications staffers had more to do with sanders that the leak was put out. she chided them, taking exception to the idea that leaked the information to hurt kelly sadler in public. we should point out that sanders sort of carried a similar tone when she spoke publicly about the comments being upset about t

kelly sadler was responding to mccain's opposition to the president's cia nominee. he's dying anyway. when it happened last week, the white house would not confirm if it had happened, today that was not the case. >> i understand the focus on this issue, but it's going to be dealt with and has been dealt with internally. >> how -- >> i was told kelly sadler called the mccain family late last week and did apologize. beyond that i don't have further comment. >> excuse me, kelly sadler told meghan mccain she would apologize publicly and that has not yet happened. why has that not yet happened? >> i was not on the call. she apologized for the comment. she apologized directly -- >> obviously if i explain all that if won't remain internal. >> is she still an blow at the white house? >> she is still an employee at the white house, she came to work today. >> she has addressed it with the family directly, and i don't have anything further. >> what are you understanding here, that this is where the white house is going to leave it. she still has a job with the white house. she

we should note that sources have told us that sadler is still safe in her job. there's no indication that this controversy or her comment will affect her role within the administration. >> all right. boris sanchez at the white house. thank you. let's bring in our panel, reporter and co-author, dan lipma lipma lipman. dan, what co-you make of sara sanders being more upset about the leaks than the comments. and the white house is still not condemning what kelly sandler said about john mccain, quote, dying anyway. >> i saw sarah sanders last night at a performance by rob lowe. clearly she is not letting this get to her. she's still having fun, but i think it speaks to an indication at the white house that sanders wanted to protect sadler from getting fired. there's been so much turnover in the communications shop at the white house. and if sadler did this every day, then she would clearly get fired, but i think they think one error by her is not enough to get canned. but in most white houses, this would be a firing offense. >> paul, on the controversial rudy giulia

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there's been no public apology from kelly sadler. meghan mccain talked about the conflict on "the view" this morning and alluded to those who defend sadler on tv. >> people will have to answer for their own conscience. i've never actually gotten on tv and lied. i have that liberty in my life. when you go on tv and say things like this, you believe in right and wrong, people espouse things about god and values. when you say things like that, it's what you have to live with at this point. >> the president's party also condemned the remark. >> it was a pretty disgusting thing to say. it was a joke, a terrible joke. i just wish somebody from the white house would tell the country that was inappropriate, that's not who we are in the trump administration. >> trump administration officials don't see it that way, including a member of the president's cabinet. >> you have to have the freedom to speak in private. we've said things in private that we would never say publicly. i think she's handled it appropriately. i'm astounded she would under

sadler had made remarks about mccain's opposition of the opposition of cia nomination by saying that he is dying anyway, and then this morning on the fox news, the office of management and budget nick mulvaney did try to justify the comments. >> and the remarks are awful, but this is a context of the private meeting in the white house, and you might say something nasty about me off of the air, and it is not that much impact, and you come on air and say it officially, and now that is a problem. and this is a private meeting inside of the white house, and a joeshgs and badly considered joke, and a joke that fell flat. >> and now, jonathan swan is saying that turmoil is growing following the white house staff following the leaks of the comments. and visibly upset kerry sanders leaked the comment saying that i am sure that this conversation is going to leak, too, and that is just disgusting, too, and it did leak. and also n that same meeting, the communications director mercedes shlap said that i stand with kelly sadler, and when contacted which nbc news, she did not deny that comment. a

you've been reporting on the white house response to sadler's joke.there any indication, jordan, that we're going to get sadler or the white house to issue an apology here? >> no. there's no indication that they are going to offer a public apology, and frankly it's shocking because it seems like that is what would put this all to rest would be somebody high up in the white house coming forward or kelly sadler, the aide who made this comment coming forward herself to make this apology but none seems forthcoming, and it seems to me that the thinking is that the president, you know, has said some pretty nasty things about john mccain in the past and apologizing for this remark might open the door to other people calling on the president to give an apology for his past remarks, so they are bunkering down, but what it's done is make this controversy that we were first reporting on by the hill by the way on thursday even worse. >> you know, david. i mentioned earlier actionixios reporting that huck bow sanders said this. i'm sure this conversation is going

lindsey graham criticizing the white house's response to sadler's comment. >> it's a pretty disgusting thing to say. if it was a joke, it was a terrible joke. he wish somebody from the white house would tell the country that was inappropriate, that's not who we are. and that trump administration and john mccain can be criticized for any political decision he's ever made or any vote he's ever cast but he's an american hero and i think most americans would like to see the trump administration do better in situations like this. >> another issue plaguing the president this week is the revelation that his long time lawyer michael cohen took large sums of money from companies like at&t after trump's election, a lot to discuss here. i want to bring in my panel, matt welch editor at large at reason magazine anddown yell goldman and fellow at new york university's mcsilver institute, a plus panel i have today. thank you for joining me on this mother's day. i want to start with you on this one, why haven't we really heard from the white house with regard to sadler's comments? >> what about donal

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she said you can put this is on the record, i stand with kelly sadler. and look, her point was when one staff member publicly comment by other members, it is inappropriate. the team should support staffs who's subjected to leaks. it shows the atmosphere and the break down and trust inside this white house that we have realtime leaking of this volume and magnitude. it is actually unheard of for a white house. >> you know jonathan, i am going to pick up on the word magnitude there, you said there were five sources about this leak. how many people were in that room? >> oh, there is more than 20 in the room. so it is a big meeting. it is the communications and press team. >> it is large meeting. none the less. it is truly unheard of. you did not have this in the obama administration or george w. bush add mministratiadminist. this is over 16 months. >> jonathan, what's the difference between the previous administration. what's driving this leaking? >> i don't want to get too far into that because that's touching on sources and things like that. i like to stay

this woman, kelly sadler, is a

i stand with kelly sadler. obviously, trying to make the point that someone leaked this to do damage. that's not how an effective team operates, but then her husband, conservative added to the controversy saying this -- >> kelly is my friend and i feel bad she's going through this. she showed character to immediately call to apologize but also a little bit of a victim here. i don't blame anybody like you, chris, for running with leaks out of the white house. it's your job. trying to get transparency to voters and to americans. the problem is, none of us were in that room and the people who leaked what she said are clearly people who have an animus against her. >> you know, meghan mccain talk and the very members of her family affected by this. is kelly sadler in fact a victim here? >> you know, that was an astounding thing when i laddhea it. right attacking the left for victimology all of these years and i want to try that some day that i make a terrible mistake, do a terrible thing and then i'm going to declar

are lawmakers, sean are, they pushing for sadler's firing? privately or publicly at all?ery clear that a lot of people are very, very troubled by this remark. we heard earlier from some of the comments from lawmakers, both republican and democrat. you know it's interesting when you contrast the white house response to this, versus orrin hatch, right orrin hatch a few days ago got into some trouble because he pushed back against senator mccain and he said that, he didn't degree with his decision to try to keep president trump away from his funeral. that made a lot of people angry. but right away, the next day, orrin hatch apologized for that remark. he sent a letter to senator mccain apologizing to him. he said it was not his place to say that. and we're seeing a very, very different kind of response from the white house. but it is a response that is in line with how this white house and this president has operated. he doesn't apologize, they don't apologize, they don't walk things back. and this is the latest example of this. this really has rubbed a lot of people the wro