they called sadoff a genius and he's well-known in georgia.ows rico and that is what this is about. this is, i guess, now is the largest rico claim unless that -- so any indication in court today of his strategy in that case? >> so, i thought he equipped himself very well. and he was formidable. and a strategy i think is delay, delay, delay. it is trump's strongest card and what he had to do was make a procedural argument that would allow the judge to reconsider the prior rulings to allow them to entertain a first amendment claim before the trial even begins. that is what he wanted. which would create a huge delay. and that is a uphill battle to get the judge to reverse himself from his prior rulings. he may have managed to do that. the judge seriously took into account his arguments and might result in delay. >> but you thought that he -- he's basically saying if he he's successful here, 2029 is when this would come and that is significant because the georgia case is where you can't pardon a sitting president. even if he could pardon himself,