earlier saidoke to they simply were not consulted or involved, so they could not possibly agree to a set of proposals that they had zero involvement in. >> the proposals seem very clear and simple in terms of what was put out. the idea they were not involved -- i do not know the background whetherpoke to whom, there were consultations. i cannot comment on that, but i can comment that when you receive a set of proposals, you can see yourself if they are something you can accept or not. to reject something that is a good idea just because of who proposed it in the manner it was proposed seems to me to be a ridiculous argument. >> are you hopeful that anything can be achieved in cairo? after all the focus on all the diplomatic homes seems to be invested in what is happening there in cairo -- do you think thereng will be achieved at all? >> i think a lot depends on hamas stopping its activities. the israelis quite clearly are happy to cease if it is on offer, but hamas is not. the question really is can sufficient pressure be applied end the violence? that's all they have to do. and the