talks aboutman that vism.nservativ ] ideo clip saidving kristol once said they evolve in time into conservatives. if you is number one. asked the neoconservative how did you vote in 1968, a seminal year, he says lyndon johnson. i'mou ask a conservative -- sorry, 1964, he would say lyndon johnson. and a conservative would say goldwater. so that is one distinction. >> are you a neoconservative? >> i was born in 1977. the people he is talking about has mostly made their move by them. i think the term means a little less than it used to. it has also come to be used as a term about foreign policy. to the 1980s and became a much more prominent term in the last decade. but i do identify with a lot of .he early neo-conservatives socialied to apply science and politics in a way that led them to conservatism. they tried the empirical. they tried to be concrete. they tried to be constructive. so they were a little less theoretical and a little more engaged with politics than earlier generations of conservatives. and i am drawn to that. i think it matters that politics the practical. i think it matters that