that was on the saipan. it made me think also of hawaii, because after japan bombed pearl harbor there was a change. all of a sudden, we begin to realize that, gee, somehow our japanese families went quiet. some of them were being moved out from hawaii. that part we couldn't understand what was happening is that they were sending them for a reason, to the camps in the united states. we did have some camps in hawaii as well, where they moved some of the families. the japanese school instructors were of course taken early. but there was a change. as you know then, our boys at our age, japanese boys could not enlist. there was a time that they could, and they did. those like dan, you know him and many of my-aged friends volunteered, and were trained and went to europe, and also became mis people in the pacific. as a matter of fact, this past march, when i was in honolulu, i went to the 42nd 65th, continuing to go for broke dinner that they had there. i went to a table just to say hello to barney, who was there.

mainly, the terrible cost of okinawa and saipan. general marshall thought the cost of an invasion of japan would cost a minimum of 250,000 american casualties. and to no one with the allied forces in the pacific, to no one did it look as though the japanese were about to quit. there was no one in his government, nobody in his cabinet, nobody in his military guidance, who thought the weapon should not be used. nobody. and there is almost no conceivable chance that the decision would have gone otherwise by anyone who was in that office. certainly not if franklin roosevelt had still been alive. did truman consider the weight of the decision? of course he did. but truman also had to consider the weight of the casualties being inflicted upon japan by our air raids, call them everyday ordinary air raids of b29's with regular bombs, the horrors of all that. and how could he someday face in american public and tell them he never used this weapon, which might have ended the war, which could've amounted to 250,000 or more casualties. just the