sal grover, nation. next month.der and ceo of giggle, a female social network, is being taken to australia's federal court for alleged gender identity discrimination. this has occurred because she did not allow a male who identifies as female to use this female only platform, a trans activist , platform, a trans activist, roxanne tickle, is seeking damages. a written apology and complete access to the platform, and the case could have major implications around the world. and sal grover joins me now to tell us more. sal, welcome to the show. >> thank you so much for having me. okay. >> it's a long story, and a lot of people here won't have heard of people here won't have heard of it because of course, the media aren't covering this generally. so let's start with what happened. giggle? what happened. what was giggle? why up? why did you set it up? >> basically my and i >> so basically my mum and i created a female only social network. we wanted women to just have a female only space in the palm their hand. i no palm o