. >> sal ly, let me ask you about the reason you're there in washington, talk about criminal justiceve had an exploding prison population over the last 30 years or so thanks in large part to the war on drugs and mandatory sentencing. violent crime is at near historic lows. how do we square those two things? how do we get some of those people who have committed minor drug offenses to not spend large portions of their life inside a united states prison? >> well, you're absolutely right, willie. you know, we have 5% of the world's population, but yet 25% of its prisoners. we have seen our overall prison population go from about half a million back in the early '80s to 2.2 million today. and that comes with really significant cost because every tlar that we're spending incarcerating someone, particularly, for example, a lower level nonviolent drug offender for longer than they need to be there for public safety purposes is a dollar that we don't have to address the emerging crime threats across the country, a dollar that we doesn't have to help our state and local partners and a dollar w