oracle's larry ellison trying to sound a confident, bullish tone on the call, as always, calling out the competition. take a listen. >> you compare that to workday or salesforce, the two other major application players in the cloud. they're not even close so we're much bigger in the workday applications they're a primary competitor in hcn and erp. salesforce has been at it for 15, 16, 17, 18 years, they've been at it for a long time but we sell more new applications customers than they do every year. in fact let me be clear. we sell double, double what sal salesforce sells in absolute dollars. >> on the call, it was when they gave guidance that you saw that stock take a hit the total of 2 to 4% the q2 cloud revenue guide of 39 to 43%, that's when you saw the stock take a leg lower they were mentioning seeing continued success in certain applications, erp. they keep seeing real logos, they keep mentioning a big backlog they hope to followed into q2 and q2 high talking about mark hurd, what he sees ahead for q2 and q3 >> last quarter was traditionally weak for oracle. yet they're missing on the guidance for the current quarter. josh, thank you, we look forward