tonight, he's joined by literary critic, writer, translator liesl salinger to celebrate the release of tribal how to how the cultural instincts divide us can bring us together. so please put your hands together for michael and liesl. thank you. thank you. all for being here. it's really. so. michael, this very exciting. i looked at this book tribe and immediately prepared for, like, anxiety and hatred. and instead found this generous theory. but before i ask you exactly that, i want to ask you, could you tell us a little bit more about yourself, the kind of work you do, and what made you want? write this book now? what were the things that led you to it? that's a great question. the introduction was really good, so i covered some of the important things to get out there. i can what what a cultural psychology is. so as a cultural psychologist, it's sort of like working on the questions of anthropology with the tools of experimental psychology and what we're trying to do is, is understand the the frameworks and the scripts inside the mind that guide your thoughts and guide your decisions