sallee krawcheck as i reported, i think she had investors. she went to them. ozzie grubel said no way. former head of wealth management at citigroup.. bob mccann goes with kkr to ozzie grubel and says we'd like to buy it. he says no. and joe grano. joe grano used to run painewebber before it was bought by ubs. he basically asked grubel if he's interested. he said no to that. then what happened, it's fascinating, grubel turns around and calls up bob mccann and says listen, i don't want to sell it to you but i may want you to run it. and they've had extensive negotiations and discussions. i also hear he's had discussions with other people. but from what i understand, on the short list is mccann and the guy from wachovia. that doesn't mean that mccann's going to sign the deal. i mean, listen, working for the swiss is not exactly a walk in the park here. i mean, talk to anybody that worked for -- - >> but the chocolates at christmas, charlie, offset all of that. >> what's that? >> the choblths you get at christmas -- >> oh, yeah. wonderful chocolates. >> it's wort