and they answer to sallie mae, freddie mac and the rest. and my hope as this president -- and i voted for him -- became president that there'd be some magic, some sort of fund that would be created to save the students so that the students wouldn't be paying these loans. they can't file bankruptcy because there -- it's almost impossible to get away from a federally-funded student loan. there's nothing that they could do. and if there was some way that someone came up with some idea to free them of this, these shackles, there'd be such an infusion of wealth and spending. that's my comment and your thoughts, i'm sure you've thought about it. and thank you again. >> well, the cost of education has, as you say, it's skyrocketed, and a lot of times students are, you know, they are saddled with debt. there are a few programs, there are a few government programs that allow students to get out from under those debts or from which they can get grants, but, you know, those have really been diminishing over the last few decades, and it is a tragedy. i