>> yes. >> sally cohen. i want to make sure it's not khan. thanks very much for joining us. y's got an article she wrote on cnn.com entitled "a canceled health plan is a good thing." explain why a canceled health plan is a good thing? >> marsha blackburn had a great metaphor about some people want to drive fords and some per rareries. in the '70s, there was the ford pinto that had a bad habit of catching on fire. it was government stepping in and saying we're not going to let companies make these uni've and dangerous cars. it's the same thing today. a lot of people have private insurance policy that are going to explode on them and the moment they get sick drop them for coverage, for them into bankruptcy. thanks to obama care, those policies are no longer going to be an option. that is generally in our better interests both in controlling costs and providing quality care to more americans and people are going to see more affordable options they can move into. >> will, go ahead. that's a fact she said. >> i'm glad we're talking about the parts of obama care that are working. w

joining me now is sally cohen and will cain a columnist with "the blaze." is it necessary?d during the marathon testimony yesterday, will you come back and testify again and she said i'll do my best to do so. i'll shut up now. >> of course, twhanlt to know how many people signed up. let's set that aside. how about answers s ts to why t the website work. more importantly, why the security problems? how many have actually had their data compromised? there's a ton of security problems with this site. giesht a news flash for you. healthcare.gov doesn't work. the government works for us. we might want to know why and when they knew it doesn't work. >> okay. i keep hearing healthcare.gov doesn't work, but i already know that and so does everybody else. >> exactly. >> i know that's where it works. >> you know, somebody get darrell issa becaua pointing ha because he's on a witch hunt for halloween. that's what they do, these massive data dumps. look. kathleen sebelius has been cooperative. part of the point here is to delay them from actually doing -- delag hhs from actually doing