i want to bring in sally smith. sally we have the statement from buckingham palace. they say that they revealed that this diagnosis in order to prevent speculation. but in stopping short of saying what kind of cancer this is, it would seem that it would fuel more questions that for the moment at least they are not willing to answer. >>> yes i'm afraid that is what is happening. i was struck that when kate had her abdominal surgery there was really no speculation about what it might be. they were totally tightlipped. now we know there is a specific diagnosis of cancer. but we don't know what kind. and i think just for those very reasons, that you just mentioned , i think they probably need to go further. and say specifically what it is. we heard the oncologist say maybe it is in the bladder. maybe it is a sort of more rare form of prostate cancer. but i think they've only gone halfway. and by revealing that he has cancer, by revealing he is having treatment they've already so-called invaded his privacy. he is the head of state. and i think given the way things are in

but thank you, sally smith, sharing your smith, for sharing your experiences with us.joined regular guest on the joined by regular guest on the program, farhat, senior program, fadi farhat, senior legal gulbenkian legal consultant at gulbenkian and ionian lawyers, and i don't doubt sally smith's sincerity, but i mean, some of the stuff we're getting over the weekend, i mean, 500 people in south wales , one baptist minister, you wales, one baptist minister, you know, who was baptised and 60% he's never seen again . i mean, i he's never seen again. i mean, i mean , isn't this just the most mean, isn't this just the most mass massive loophole that is being abused ? uh thank you. being abused? uh thank you. >> nigel. um, no. sally came across as a very kind and warm. no, no, i don't doubt that. >> but but but possibly naive. >> but but but possibly naive. >> well, possibly. but she touched on something, actually. is sometimes it's not just is that sometimes it's not just about conversion. you about the conversion. so you don't necessarily have to have a genuine conversion

sally smith and mary smith go off in october 1825 to the american school for the deaf, and from 1825 until the 1890s, we see that there was a there's a real a rapid in the population of deaf islanders. but also there was a kind of a period of intensive contact with the wider deaf community in new england. and that's what we're going to look at now. first, this graph shows the period of attendance of all 25 deaf islanders at the american school for the deaf. as we've already said, the first three islanders arrived in 1825, which was about eight and a half years after the school was founded. the highest number of islanders to attend. at the same time occurred in the 1850s. there were six, as we said. there were, 25 in total. and five deaf women were born on the mainland. so weren't deaf islanders, but they married a deaf islander, a deaf man in this case, and moved to the island after marriage. and we're going to look at those individuals now. so here we in green, the. five women who were born in the mainland. they attended sd, married a deaf man from the island and moved to the island