i'm thinking of salman rushdie.hink if you ask most people they say i remember he wrote a book that offended islamic mullahs who put out a kill on him and he had to go into hiding in england and that looked bad. but now he was up here in the mountains where i live not long ago having dinner a year ago and i saw him near me and my first thought was should i move. [laughter] but to most people it looks as if salman rushdie came out just fine. isn't there a kind of lingering affect of something like that, a kind of censorship that's underneath that people start watching themselves and whether they are going to publish more? is there a lingering effect that censorship likeip that has on an author? >> it certainly does and there's an accumulated effect sort of a step-by-step process. there is a writer that i want to give a shout out to in england who spent a lot of time on this and used a wonderful phrase i wish i could claim that's called we've internalized. he preserves a book called the satanic verses. it was offensiv

him which was kill him if you see him and he had to go into hiding and that looks bad but now salman rushdie was up here where i live a while ago having dinner and i saw him near me in the first thought was fatwa and i moved, no. selman rushdie came out and he still writing and all of that but isn't there a kind of lingering effect of something like that a kind of censorship that's late and then underneath it people are still washing -- watching and is there a lingering effect of censorship like that that it has on author? >> it certainly does and it has the cumulative effect and a step-by-step process. i want to give a shadow to keenan who spend a lot of time on this and he used a wonderful phrase which i wish i could claim called we internalize the fatwa. someone rushdie. >> a book called "the satanic verses" and to me it was offensive. there was a death sentence a fatwa put out on him. the british government had a lot of pressure to shut them down as did his publisher and so his book was never fully censored. he survived but we internalize the fatwa now in a sense that it was much more co

[laughter] but to most people it looks as though salman rushdie came out just fine. he still writing and all that. but isn't there a kind of lingering effect or something like that? a kind of censorship that's late and that's underneath the people start watching themselves whether they are going to publish him? is there a lingering effect of censorship like that that it has on an author or the reading public? >> ito certainly does and theres a keen t live effect and a step-by-step process. there's a writer and i'm going to give a shout-out to keenan allen in england to spend a lot of time on this and he used the wonderful phrase which i wish i could claim called we have internalized the fatwa. just for our readers solomon rushed he. >> a book called "the satanic verses" and to meme was offensie to some in islam and there was a death sentence a fatwa for him. the british government had a lot of pressure to shut them down and his publisher stood by him. ande so his book was never fully censored. he survived and he internalized the fatwa now in w a sense that was much m

salman rushdie produced a book that was offensive to islam and there was a death sentence put on him. the british government had a lot of pressure to shut him down as did his publisher. his book was never fully censored. he survived. we've internalized it now in the sense we're much more concerned with, a lot of plays that weren't produced, art exhibits that weren't staged, concerts that weren't put on because of our fear that perhaps there will be -- not necessary violence, but we've internalized this notion -- and we could talk about this if you want, that free speech is fine so long as it doesn't bother anybody, so long as it doesn't offend anybody. that's not the free speech that we really care about. it is the larry flynts. it's the salman rushdies, the nutcase down the street who is protecting your speech, not you and me, okay? i mean, we just live or lives. so we've come to believe -- or at least many have come to believe that free speech itself is a risk. it's a source of harm rather than the reward of a free society. i think that the lesson of the lingering let's call it pull

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