if people haven't read the new york times publishers essay today for the washington post or ag salzberger wrote an essay describing how trump is credit been from the autocratic playbook that we've seen around the world. and not just strongmen, also from democratic leader or leaders who use the levers of government to punish their enemies it's exactly what trump is talking about. he's doing it in plain sight, but we in america needed to learn from what others experience and other countries, because it may well happen here. >> we also need to understand that unlike previously when he was president, there were i think there were some guardrails air there was some there were some mechanism in place, so where his worst instincts wouldn't totally be played out. and i just don't think that'll be the case now. so that is the danger. and the threat beyond these are not just words, these are the things he will actually try to do. and i don't think that there's going to be that same sense of safety that like, oh we can talk him out of this. like, i don't think there's going to be any talking out of