and donald trump say they never discussed that, so i would say yes. -- sam bondy and donald trump.lly hope everybody covers it with the same kind of vigor, toneling billions of dollars hillary clinton's foundation. there is a new york times story that says there's a whole history of donald trump violating campaign-finance regulations. -- he has proudly said he made campaign contributions because he wanted to get something. she was considering whether to -- it was legal contributions from the charitable foundation. >> $25,000. it seems to a lot of people to look like straightforward -- the .ontribution was made >> i think the whole reason this is in the news is because donald trump is winning in the polls now. thanks to kellyanne conway for taking part in that on-the-fly interview. we will be back with libertarian candidate gary johnson. as always, you can listen to us on the radio, and we will be right back. >> one is a mountain climber, the other dabbles in fiction writing. they are running a third-party bid to take over the white house. our next guest is gary johnson, libertarian

mark: do you know the facts around his decision to make a contribution to sam bondy's bondi's politicalo you know about that? >> my understanding is they never discussed trump university matters at all. it's very customary for him to contribute to republican candidates across the country. he's been very generous with his contributions, including some of the candidates who don't support him now in his presidency. and that is what he said. he obviously is a floridian. mark: without looking at the documents involved, you are asking people to accept this timing as a coincidence, even though it came around the time that her office was making a decision? >> they never discussed it. there is no connection between that and hillary clinton using the state department with contributions from foreign donors. mark: so people should say that the conservation was given around the time that they were making a decision, that is a coincidence? that is how they should treat it? >> they never had a discussion on it. so i would say yes. john: that people should be look at seat documents -- to see the docume

now trump also held a fund-raiser for bondi at his mar-a-lago result. here are the details. sam stein is one of the authors of that report. it's not just the holding of the event at mar-a-lago after it's been dropped. it's the price tag. explain this to me. >> so mar-a-lago is not a cheap resort to rent. trump has himself used it during the campaign and he's charged his own donors. he's charged his own campaign about $140,000 per event. so expensive. but when pam bondi was doing a fund-raiser at mar-a-lago, the charge was about $5,000. so relatively cheap fund-raiser, which in itself is very valuable for a campaign. if pam bondi's re-election campaign doesn't have to dole out $10,000, $20,000, $30,000, that helps with her. this was not just a large in terms of gathering donors but giving her what appears to be a fairly discounted rate for the use of mar-a-lago. >> i want to understand these numbers. donald trump charges his own campaign when it's being paid for by donor funds $140,000 for an event there and charged the bondi campaign $5,000? >> correct. the bondi people note the